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This is a modest but nice little rewarding peak that can be reached via the Cave Creek/Seven Springs trailhead. A little extra effort is required to reach this peak with approximately 1.5 miles of off-trail each way. Most will find the first half mile of off trail the toughest, as one makes the initial off trail climb up a distinct ridgeline that runs down to Quien Sabe Trail. The climb is not overly bad, as there is a relatively distinct game trail the entire length of the ridgeline. However, the footing will never be overly stable with several ankle breakers to contend with and terrain similar to that of Skull Mesa with pin cushion cacti and agave lurking in the tall grass. However, after the quick climb up the thin ridgeline the off-trail route becomes very manageable and fast going. There is nearly a mile long stretch of flat grassy ground with several game trails to ease travel. The peak sits at the end of this long mesa-like stretch and only requires an easy climb up a modest slope.


There are several other options for reaching the summit. One can summit via the Cottonwood Trail, utilizing the Bronco trailhead, or exit Skunk Tank Trail much earlier than its intersection with Quien Sabe and utilize the Quien Sabe Creek drainage. I exited the summit via the aforementioned Quien Sabe Creek and would not recommend that as an ascent route. It is very steep near the top and one will not have the advantages of being able to see the game trails more clearly, as they do when coming down this side. The posted official route is less direct, however, far more straightforward and much easier.
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Difficulty 3 of 5
Route Finding 3 of 5
Distance One Way 5.7 miles
Trailhead Elevation 3,361 feet
Elevation Gain 1,497 feet
Accumulated Gain 2,069 feet
Avg Time One Way 3-4 hours
Kokopelli Seeds 12.59
Interest Off Trail Hiking, Seasonal Creek & Peak
Author friendofThundergod
Descriptions 7
Routes 130
Photos 5,250
Trips 353 map ( 5,059 miles )
Age 34
Location Phoenix, AZ
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14  2011-01-08
Quien Sabe Peak
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0.7  Skunk Tank Trail #246
1.1  Quien Sabe Trail #250
1.2  Skull Mesa Trail #248
1.8  China Wall Trail w/Bronco Creek #287
2.0  Cottonwood Trail #247
2.3  Cottonwood Basin Trail
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This is a modest but nice little rewarding peak that can be reached via the Cave Creek/Seven Springs trailhead. A little extra effort is required to reach this peak with approximately 1.5 miles of off-trail each way. Most will find the first half mile of off trail the toughest, as one makes the initial off trail climb up a distinct ridgeline that runs down to Quien Sabe Trail. The climb is not overly bad, as there is a relatively distinct game trail the entire length of the ridgeline. However, the footing will never be overly stable with several ankle breakers to contend with and terrain similar to that of Skull Mesa with pin cushion cacti and agave lurking in the tall grass. However, after the quick climb up the thin ridgeline the off-trail route becomes very manageable and fast going. There is nearly a mile long stretch of flat grassy ground with several game trails to ease travel. The peak sits at the end of this long mesa-like stretch and only requires an easy climb up a modest slope.


There are several other options for reaching the summit. One can summit via the Cottonwood Trail, utilizing the Bronco trailhead, or exit Skunk Tank Trail much earlier than its intersection with Quien Sabe and utilize the Quien Sabe Creek drainage. I exited the summit via the aforementioned Quien Sabe Creek and would not recommend that as an ascent route. It is very steep near the top and one will not have the advantages of being able to see the game trails more clearly, as they do when coming down this side. The posted official route is less direct, however, far more straightforward and much easier.
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    To Cave Creek Seven Springs Trailhead
    Cave Creek TH in the Seven Springs Campground area.

    From the intersection of Tom Darlington Rd and Cave Creek Rd, travel East on Cave Creek Rd. At 2.2 miles you pass Pima Rd. Continue on Cave Creek Rd and at 6.3 miles you reach Bartlett Dam Rd. Follow sign to Seven Springs Rd. At 9.1 miles you pass the Sears Kay Ruins. The pavement ends at 10.8 miles. You pass the Bronco TH at 13.8 miles and the road is now marked Forest Road 24. At 17.6 miles you pass a private ranch. At 17.9 miles you pass the Seven Springs Campground and the Cave Creek TH is on your left at 18.5 miles.

    2012-03-07 Nahimana222 writes: From the signs I saw at the trailhead, you need a Tonto Pass to park.

    From PHX (I-10 & AZ-51) 51.5 mi - about 1 hour 36 mins
    From TUC (Jct 1-10 & Grant) 153 mi - about 2 hours 57 mins
    From FLG (Jct I-17 & I-40) 127 mi - about 2 hours 38 mins
    page created by friendofThundergod on Dec 06 2015 3:51 pm
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