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chronickind · by **chronickind** » May 22 2006 4:37 pm

what are the current conditions/closures in this area? the flume trail is closed but the fossil springs trail isn't?

chronickind · by **chronickind** » May 22 2006 6:34 pm

also the mail trail is still open correct?

Preston the yeti · by **Preston the yeti** » May 22 2006 7:32 pm

The Flume Trail is closed, the Fossil Springs Trail is open. I am not familiar with the Mail Trail. Campfires and smoking are banned forest wide right now, but backpacking stoves are o.k.

ajcanable · by **ajcanable** » May 23 2006 8:53 am

Since you can't have a fire or smoke maybe you will need somebody to hang on your "chronic" for you? let me know?

chronickind · by **chronickind** » May 23 2006 1:10 pm

hahahah yea im afraid my group may no longer want to go. ive been before several years back ( as what else? a boyscout ) and apparently theres been some deconstruction since then.

i would of liked to have found a less trecherous way in and out, since ive only ever hiked the fossil springs trail. also whilst perusing articles about fossil springs i read there was an incident with armed men ( article said they had automatic weapons ) growing marijuana in the fossil springs wilderness?!?! has any one else heard that?

wetbeaverlover · by **wetbeaverlover** » May 23 2006 3:52 pm

Yeah..Last year the law busted a bunch of, yes, you guessed, ILLEGAL ALIENS tending and gaurding 120,000 pot plants. Yesterdays edition of the Arizona Daily Sun reported that one of same said ILLEGAL ALIENS was giving 3 years in jail, and then deported with the admonition to never return to the US..Now, imagine an American citizen getting busted in a conspiracy that involved growing 120,000 pot plants. The State and or Federal Government would throw you in a cage so deep you would never smell free air again.

chronickind · by **chronickind** » May 23 2006 8:33 pm

wow.. hahaha i had heard there was 4 armed men.. but they were illegal aliens? ILLEGAL ALIENS w/ automatic weapons in the fossil springs wilderness?!?! makes me want to bring my glock but id be scared leaving it to swim : king :

Rob del Desierto · by **Rob del Desierto** » May 23 2006 8:44 pm

In response to chronickind's reply:
Bring a speargun.

chronickind · by **chronickind** » May 23 2006 9:11 pm

In response to PageRob's reply:

ahhhhh if only i owned a speargun. the machete and hatchet are most likely going to prove most useful.

Rob del Desierto · by **Rob del Desierto** » May 23 2006 9:27 pm

In response to chronickind's reply:
See! You knew there was a reason to consider buying one here in Az.

chronickind · by **chronickind** » May 23 2006 9:32 pm

In response to PageRob's reply:

i think it would probably not be useful on land against illegal aliens with assault rifles. lol

chronickind · by **chronickind** » May 23 2006 9:36 pm

OK before we veer even more terribly off topic I have 1 extremely vital question. hows the swimming?

Hoffmaster · by **Hoffmaster** » May 23 2006 11:32 pm

In response to chronickind's reply:

"how's the swimming?" Are you kidding! Dude, you need to go here. It's freakin' awesome! Bring some swim goggles or a scuba mask. The water is crystal clear (usually) and you will see tons of fish. Freakin' amazing!
Oh yeah...I almost forgot about the rope swings. Rope swings are good!

davis2001r6 · by **davis2001r6** » May 24 2006 5:52 am

Yeah that rope swing off the falls on the dam is awesome, plus you can swim under that rock arch/ hole to get to the other side.

azpride · by **azpride** » May 24 2006 8:20 am

I swear everybody always forgets about the rope swing just upstream from the dam, not even a half mile. It is the BEST rope swing I have ever been to... especially out of the 3 that are at fossil creek. Yes there are 3 (at least). Fossil Creek is an amazing place...

chronickind · by **chronickind** » May 24 2006 12:38 pm

thanks for the response. glad to hear the swimming hasnt been affected by the deconstruction.

Hoffmaster · by **Hoffmaster** » May 24 2006 2:56 pm

In response to azpride's reply:

The rope swing you are refering to is the one that I go to most often because it is the least used one. It's probably my favorite also for that reason.

cass1234 · by **cass1234** » Jul 18 2006 4:44 pm

Has anybody ever jumped off the dam??? Forget the rope swings, that is the real rush. It is perfectly safe as long as you jump out far enough to clear the rock. The water is probably 18 or 20 feet deep, so you don't have to worry about hitting the bottom.

Hoffmaster · by **Hoffmaster** » Jul 18 2006 6:21 pm

I watched 3 guys jump off the dam this past weekend. I think it looks fun, but my girlfriend would have killed me if I had survived the fall.

A few years ago, I busted an ear drum on a bad landing at Saguaro Lake. My days of high cliff jumping are over...unfortunately.

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