azbackpackr wrote:Some people say Baldy's highest point is not marked on the topo map as such.
I just go to the big, 6 foot tall cairn, the one all the hikers go to, where the hiker registers are, the first peak you get to, where the trail leads. I don't know if it is Baldy Peak or not. Someone else on here probably does know, though.
OK, you're talking about the north summit, which is just a few feet under the main summit. This is the area inside the "MOU" of MOUNT BALDY on the topo map I've attached here. Saying that this peak isn't the highest elevation is just splitting hairs, it's so close it's unimportant (less than 10 feet). In fact, this topo map says the high/center peak elevation is 11,403, but Wikipedia and most others says it's 11,420. The peak that the Apaches worship on is the one that is techinically marked as "Mt. Baldy" and is the 11,420 peak. Then there is Mount Baldy South which is about 100 feet short of the high point.
The Apache boundary is right where the east and west trails meet, which are marked blue and red here. The signposts that used to be there before they fell apart were put up by the Apaches and forbid going any farther, onto the reservation. The trail which goes past the signposts where the east/west trails meet is on the reservation land and stops you short of going to the north/false summit, where the cairns I believe you saw are. As I said, if anyone gets information that the Apaches have changed I'd love to hear it, but nothing I have read says it's legal, including their own website, http://wmatoutdoors.org
. Once you cross onto their land you are taking your chances.
This whole area (on their land) is CLOSED to all non-Apaches, as you can see from the image posted below, which comes off this website. On the site it says, "Reservation permits are required
for all Outdoor Activities including fishing, hunting, camping, hiking
, river rafting, sightseeing, picnicking, biking, and cross country skiing." With this map it says, "Feel free to recreate on all areas of the Reservation that are not 'Designated Closed Areas' (see Map)."
So I would again say, SUMMIT THE PEAK AT YOUR OWN RISK.
You may be prosecuted.