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Postby joe bartels » Nov 05 2009 3:15 pm

Since I've slaughtered the pronuciation for years I decided to verify
http://www.forvo.com/word/salome/

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Re: Salome

Postby Grasshopper » Nov 05 2009 3:25 pm

Interesting.. Te-wa, I remember a previous forum discussion on this one where you had some strong feeling regarding the correct pronunciation. Were you correct?
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Re: Salome

Postby chumley » Nov 05 2009 3:26 pm

Here's another I know very few people who pronounce correctly. Wonder if pronunciation is more difficult near water sources? :D
http://www.forvo.com/word/gisela/
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Re: Salome

Postby big_load » Nov 05 2009 3:28 pm

Yeah, but you have to account for regional variation. Mazatzal.
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Re: Salome

Postby chumley » Nov 05 2009 6:04 pm

So does Jerome rhyme with Salome?
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Re: Salome

Postby hippiepunkpirate » Nov 09 2009 4:20 pm

chumley wrote:So does Jerome rhyme with Salome?

Now I'm just confused :lol: . This summer my girlfriend and I found out we were mispronouncing Salida (a small town in Colorado we were visiting).
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Re: Salome

Postby Al_HikesAZ » Nov 09 2009 6:01 pm

chumley wrote:So does Jerome rhyme with Salome?

If it is named after a person - yes. Salome Arizona rhymes with Jerome Arizona.

The town in La Paz county was named for a person and does rhyme.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salome,_Arizona "The usual local pronunciation of the town's name is /sə ˡloʊm/."

Salome Jug is not so clear.
If it is named for a long-forgotten prospector - yes.
If it is named after the Biblical reference - not necessarily.
If it is pronounced by Hispanics - no it would be Sah low may. But Jug would have probably been Jack.
If it is pronounced by Anglos learned from Hispanics it actually sounds like Sallie Mae.

Does that help clear it up. :sl:

I don't know what http://www.forvo.com/word/salome/ has to do with anything in AZ.
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Will Croft Barnes (1858-1937) first came to Arizona as a cavalryman and went on to become a rancher, state legislator, and conservationist. From 1905 to 1935, his travels throughout the state, largely on horseback, enabled him to gather the anecdotes and geographical information that came to constitute Arizona Place Names. For this first toponymic encyclopedia of Arizona, Barnes compiled information from published histories, federal and state government documents, and reminiscences of "old timers, Indians, Mexicans, cowboys, sheep-herders, historians, any and everybody who had a story to tell as to the origin and meaning of Arizona names." The result is a book chock full of oddments, humor, and now-forgotten lore, which belongs on the night table as well as in the glove compartment. Barnes' original Arizona Place Names has become a booklover's favorite and is much in demand. The University of Arizona Press is pleased to reissue this classic of Arizoniana, which remains as useful and timeless as it was more than half a century ago. "
http://www.amazon.com/Arizona-Place-Nam ... ikearizona

So what does forvo.com say - is it pronounced BART els or Bar TELS.
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Re: Salome

Postby Preston the yeti » Nov 09 2009 6:22 pm

Some old maps show Salome as "Sally-May".

The Santa Catalina were once the Santa Catarina, too.

As for me, I enjoy eating a green chile kwessa-dilla while sitting on the Mo-go-lawn Rim and watching the sun set over the Sierra Anchas and Mad-as-hell Mountains. :D
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Re: Salome

Postby joe bartels » Nov 09 2009 6:24 pm

it's Bar TELS
Generally when people wrote it down , as I'd dictate the letters, they would have two "L"s before I even get that far. So now I simply say "Bartels with one "L", then spell it out" ;)

Of course I had to change my name to joe bartels as people on the trail kept calling me tee-vah joe, when it was teh-vah. Their website used to verify it, I don't see it there anymore. Long ago they used to have the Teva Games on ESPN or somewhere where you could hear the pronunciation. I guess in hindsight I could have must mentioned the pronunciation on my profile... oh well, live and learn.
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Re: Salome

Postby azpride » Nov 09 2009 6:32 pm

joe bartels wrote:Their website used to verify it, I don't see it there anymore.


Oh, they still do. Not long a ago I won a debate with my girlfriend about it by visiting the website. Ah, sweet victory... :D
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Re: Salome

Postby Al_HikesAZ » Nov 09 2009 7:28 pm

Preston Sands wrote:Some old maps show Salome as "Sally-May".

Will Croft Barnes page 377 documents that the Roosevelt Quad and G.L.O. map 1921 listed it as Sally May Creek.

and Mad-as-hell Mountains. :D
I thought they were the Matzah Ball Mountains. :? Croft ". . . early settlers said the word was Apache and meant "bleak barren". Some early writers spell it "Mat-a-Zell." McClintock says Apaches named it "Maz-at-zark" meaning "space between." An Indian held up his four fingers to represent the peaks and between them it was "Maz-at-Zark," the space between."
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Re: Salome

Postby Al_HikesAZ » Nov 09 2009 7:35 pm

I also heard somewhere it was an Aztec word for deer. How it would get an Aztec name I have no idea.
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Re: Salome

Postby chumley » Nov 09 2009 9:34 pm

Preston Sands wrote:The Santa Catalina were once the Santa Catarina, too.

That's just cause the map was printed in China... :sl:
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Re: Salome

Postby Azbackcountry » Nov 11 2009 7:49 am

chumley wrote:
Preston Sands wrote:The Santa Catalina were once the Santa Catarina, too.

That's just cause the map was printed in China... :sl:


thanks for making hot tea spew from my nostrils :sl:
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Re: Salome

Postby sundevilstormin » Nov 11 2009 9:02 pm

azpride wrote:Not long a ago I won a debate with my girlfriend


no you haven't... you THINK you've won, but she is just gonna use your 'win' against you in the near or not so near future :scared: , whether you know it or not... so you might want to try on a few of these names, in case you need an 'AKA"
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Re: Salome

Postby sundevilstormin » Nov 11 2009 9:04 pm

anyone going up to the 'see airy ant cheese' anytime soon?
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