nonot wrote: What you may not be used to is the catclaw and that fact that AZ trails are not generally obvious dirt paths like they are in other parts of the country, they are generally the rocks in the path of least resistance through the shrubbery.
This is probably the biggest reason many people get lost out in the supes (even me for very short periods of time.....I'm usually good about backtracking very soon after loosing a trail) especially on the non-official trails like the trail leading up to battleship. It gets so hard to distinguish the trail against random spacing in the shrubbery and animal trails. In a way though it's nice that the Supes have tons of extremely recognizable landmarks to get your bearings on so you can usually just bushwhack straight to where you need to go or to where you know the trail is.
gotdirt wrote:Thanks for all your imput! If anyone is interested in showing me around the mountain let me know.
If I get any free weekends here soon I'm going to be trying to at least get some day hikes in the western supes. You are welcome to join if I'm able to put the hike up here with enough notice. Also pertinent to know if you are good at scrambling because a fair amount of trails out here will require it. And the scrambling could be on a variety of rock from solid, smooth rock to more brittle and sharp pumice rock (it helps exfoliate your hands

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