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Bill Williams Mt Project

Bill Williams Mt Project

Postby Jim_H » May 02 2011 1:00 pm

http://a123.g.akamai.net/7/123/11558/ab ... 048631.pdf

The Kaibab launches plans to prevent a Kendrick-Pumpkin Fire, Sitgreaves-Eagle Rock Fire, and Mt Elden & San Francisco Peaks-Radio, Leroux, Schultz Fires, and other fires on the north side of the Peaks. I consider this good news. It looks pretty ambitious.
I think Monsoon season will begin around June 20, plus or minus 5 days, not by the calendar according to the NWS, but when dew points rise dramatically, and it begins to rain over the Sacramento Mountains. It will start about 10 days later in Arizona.
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Re: Bill Williams Mt Project

Postby hippiepunkpirate » May 03 2011 1:13 pm

: app : Way to step up to the plate, Kaibab National Forest! Now if the Coconino would just get off their asses and get something similar going.....sometimes I wonder if the Coconino LIKES having half their forest overgrown and the other half torched beyond reason.
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Re: Bill Williams Mt Project

Postby Jim_H » May 03 2011 1:28 pm

I think the Coco wastes too much time protecting Flag and seems to have put a lot of their efforts into urban area thinnings. Also, I get the impression we have more recreational users, and that can complicate things. It is good to see the Kaibab do this, since they may be able to keep a hot stand replacing fire from affecting BW. It will pretty much be the only mountain in the area without one, if they succeed.
I think Monsoon season will begin around June 20, plus or minus 5 days, not by the calendar according to the NWS, but when dew points rise dramatically, and it begins to rain over the Sacramento Mountains. It will start about 10 days later in Arizona.
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Re: Bill Williams Mt Project

Postby Jim_H » May 15 2011 10:34 am

After being back around the north side of Elden and all over the Dry Lake Hills yesterday, it would be nice if the Coco were to undertake a plan like this Kaibab Plan, for our area. Pretty much every place on the Coco near Flagstaff, that isn't flat ponderosa pine which has been logged over many times, has been burned except for this area. A lot of the Dry Lake Hills is in really bad shape, and the Brookbank reminds me of the Waterline road before the Schultz. So far, with all of the fires over the last 33 years: The Radio in 1977, the Hochderffer in 1996, the Leroux in 2000, and the Schultz last year, and also the Pumpkin on Kendrick, Flagstaff itself has been spared the the loss of water shed stability and damage to it's view shed. Doney Park has faired far worse than Flag, ironically. It would be nice if the Dry Lake hills could be managed before a fire turns that area into a slide prone, and recreationally useless, and also incredibly ugly area.
I think Monsoon season will begin around June 20, plus or minus 5 days, not by the calendar according to the NWS, but when dew points rise dramatically, and it begins to rain over the Sacramento Mountains. It will start about 10 days later in Arizona.
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