I goofed around at West Fork of Oak Creek taking Fall Color photos and then at The Hike House. So I got a late start - and I took a lot of photos. I cut the hike short without summiting so I could get home by my deadline. Next time I would bring my sticks. I could have used them coming down the summit descent. They will get in the way on the initial ascent and descent. I'll just have to attach them to my pack.