We went up Carney and took a slightly different route for the exit out of the Roost. We opted to rap through the canyon. There were 3 raps with the longest being 240 feet. We had a joyous scramble through the kind and loving catclaw covered wash after sunset. At some point while in the pitch black darkness of night Brian said we should exit the wash and cut over to hit the trail....so we did. I'm always amazed by Vaporman's awesome navigational skills during the day and at night. Fun trip!