Joel, Greg, and myself visited the ruins in the afternoon after going to the Nordhoff-Hope site. 2nd visit for Joel and I and first for Greg, This is a fun site to visit, fairly easy to get too and has great views of the hillside out in front, Even though they are pratically in sight of Nordhoff-Hope the have different construction (with mortar), they are better preserved also. As I stated in my other posting this date and good pair to hit up on the same day. We left the valley at 8:00 AM and still got them both in without being in a hurry. The hilite of the day for me was the drive out when Greg and I got eyes on a Bobcat for at least my first sighting of one in the wild. Sorry no photos, the glimpse was fleeting