I did this hike with some former coworkers who are training to a Grand Canyon Rim to Rim hike in October as a day hike. We started at 6am at Dreamy Draw and hiked over to 7th Ave/North Mt. and back, for a total of 14 miles. The clouds early on helped keep the heat down so it wasnt too hard on us. We started with 5 people but by the last 3 miles 2 dropped out. The one lady was wearing sandals and they started to blister the back of her ankles pretty badly, and her knee was apparently also bothering her. My former boss made a phone call and got his girlfriend to pick them up by Cave Creek Road. The rest of us continued on to our cars, wrapping up at noon. I haven't hiked this area in about 5 years, and after getting buzzed by some rude mountain bikers, I now remember why.