Tried the reverse on entering Webber Creek. Started up at Lee Johnson Spring and headed down. The going isn't too bad. It's minor treewhacking every now and then. I turned around at a 30-50ft dry fall, which is only 0.34mi in. It's looks negotiable but I lost all interest. Somehow I was under the impression there was a route and this definitely hadn't seen a human in years. I crawled out of the canyon and zig zagged around the west of the drainage. If there's a route it must be on the east.

Pine and Strawberry are both flaunting nice Autumn foliage. The rim has a lingering aspen here and there, which is nice as they're a brilliant orange at this point. The real show comes from the oaks blazing through the woods.

Stopped at East Verde and hiked up to Flowing Springs road and back. This area is more appealing driving by then witnessing close up. Apparently a popular frisbee hangout, as I found at least a half dozen trashed about.

As this was a day for doing things that seemed cool but weren't I opted to go through Sunflower. Now I know why that sign doesn't Sunflower exit... errr Dead ends right in the friggen middle. Signage says it's for a "project" but figure it's to simply keep traffic down to zero. The AZT trailhead down there looks like a killer party zone! The walnuts are flaunting their brilliant neon yellow Autumn foliage.