Got an 8:30 start today (Sat). No one else at the trailhead. I don't suspect this is one of the more popular trails in the area. Too bad because after the first 5 or so miles, when you drop down into the creekbed, it really is nice. There was quite a bit of snow, even on the lower parts of the trail. Once you get off the ATV part of the trail, the views into Black Canyon are awesome. The snow did make finding the trail a little tricky, especially in the pine forest, but nothing I couldn't figure out.