Did this hike with my sister and my two kids. We parked at one of the upper campgrounds and took the Pineline Trail #193 south to the junction with the Middle Trail #202 and headed east until we got to the dirt road and took that back to the where we parked. The total mileage for the loop was 1.7 miles. Even though the trail was pretty easy, there was a section with a lot of downed trees, which made it a little hard for the kids. Even after that, it was pretty slow going until we got back to the road. Just before the junction with the Middle Trail we saw some cattle grazing. They had left quite a few "landmines" along the trail, which made for another obstacle to steer the kids around. After we finished, we had lunch at the campground and headed back down to the heat of the desert.