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by nonot
Oct 21 2021 11:24 am
Forum: General
Topic: Coconino NF proposes trailhead transit expansion
Replies: 6
Views: 199

Re: Coconino NF proposes trailhead transit expansion

Care to explain? I am unfamiliar with the exploitation or detrimental impacts to you refer to, and kind of doubt that "Sedona" as a township, is exploiting the forest. Perhaps you have a beef with individual companies or entities? Sedona has many businesses which cater to tourism due to the nice sce...
by nonot
Oct 21 2021 8:54 am
Forum: General
Topic: Coconino NF proposes trailhead transit expansion
Replies: 6
Views: 199

Re: Coconino NF proposes trailhead transit expansion

And in certain places, such as Fossil Springs, I think the Forest service has demonstrated taking even further steps in terms of policies of preventing overuse.
by nonot
Oct 21 2021 8:53 am
Forum: General
Topic: Coconino NF proposes trailhead transit expansion
Replies: 6
Views: 199

Re: Coconino NF proposes trailhead transit expansion

@Chums: Managing forest access is another responsibility of the FS in addition to managing the forest usage. And the FS does have policies, such as stay limits, and group limits, at least, in many places. I'm glad they are considering alternative access means (e.g. shuttle service) rather than just ...
by nonot
Oct 13 2021 10:29 pm
Forum: Backpacking
Topic: Hammock Camping in the Mazatals
Replies: 7
Views: 402

Re: Hammock Camping in the Mazatals

The Mazatzals are huge. For just your next trip, there are scattered remaining pine trees at the top saddle of the Barnhardt trail, a cluster of pines near Horse Camp seep, and some small scraggy trees near Chilson camp, all junipers if I recall. There are also some pine trees on Y-bar below the sad...
by nonot
Sep 27 2021 12:02 pm
Forum: Road Conditions
Topic: SR 88 - Apache Trail
Replies: 111
Views: 15487

Re: SR 88 - Apache Trail

I believe I've seen several instances that refute the post you are referring to. Plus ADOT (az511) still shows the closure just after the marina (still well short of Reavis North access).
by nonot
Sep 14 2021 7:23 pm
Forum: Road Conditions
Topic: I-17
Replies: 56
Views: 8074

Re: I-17

No matter how many lanes you have, if people insist on driving 55 in a 75 zone and refuse to yield their lane, it won't help the traffic..
by nonot
Sep 13 2021 10:33 am
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Famous Haiku Stairs to be destroyed
Replies: 14
Views: 692

Re: Famous Haiku Stairs to be destroyed

If you build it, they will come. When too many people come and behave badly, then you close it or restrict it. Surprised they didn't go with the restriction/permit option given the investment.
by nonot
Sep 10 2021 3:48 pm
Forum: General
Topic: Shake Tree Canyon 4x4 RD location
Replies: 5
Views: 328

Re: Shake Tree Canyon 4x4 RD location

I think you are referring to 1438 to 1438B which gets you onto the ridge. The FR 415 extension of 1438 seems to be designated for closure under the proposed motor vehicle use plan but can always still be hiked as an exit route if you see a closure sign. Barnhardt rd is 419, which involves hiking up ...
by nonot
Aug 31 2021 6:31 pm
Forum: Backpacking
Topic: Rincons and Weather
Replies: 12
Views: 672

Re: Rincons and Weather

@nonot Those are great points. I don't mind getting a little wet or having to hunker down for a short amount of time. I guess my big question is how gnarly can a monsoon get up around 6,000'-8,000'? There is nothing particularly different from a monsoon at 6-8k elevation in Arizona than there is fo...
by nonot
Aug 31 2021 6:18 pm
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"
Replies: 132
Views: 5543

Re: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"

@nonot My obvious disagreement with closures or even limited access ... Its usually the people not calling for rescues and usually the people most capable of recreating in extreme heat etc that are hurt the most. Agree, I dislike permits and closures, but I unfortunately do have to admit that permi...
by nonot
Aug 30 2021 4:31 pm
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"
Replies: 132
Views: 5543

Re: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"

@friendofThundergod At least for now they are not talking of closing the trails permanently. " I can't wait for those gates to go in at the top of the Grand Canyon to prevent hiking below the rim on the 100 or so days of year a heat advisory is issued. :lol:" FYI there is the permit system they are...
by nonot
Aug 30 2021 4:19 pm
Forum: Backpacking
Topic: Rincons and Weather
Replies: 12
Views: 672

Re: Rincons and Weather

current forecasts have a 30%-40% chance of Thunderstorms over Friday-Saturday. At what percentage would you consider bailing on Saguaro and finding an alternate trip You may want to explain the reasons you would choose to bail. Pretty much every day of monsoon season is going to match that forecast...
by nonot
Aug 20 2021 11:30 am
Forum: Fauna
Topic: Arizona wildlife sightings
Replies: 120
Views: 9894

Re: Arizona wildlife sightings

@chumley
Yes, that was my original post. Nomadic animals need to move away from ECC to find water during drought years, which is why I am hypothesizing/suggesting the bighorn could have migrated over to WCC from ECC.
by nonot
Aug 20 2021 11:11 am
Forum: Fauna
Topic: Arizona wildlife sightings
Replies: 120
Views: 9894

Re: Arizona wildlife sightings

@chumley While there is some water that seeps through the dam, which is what I think you are referring to in terms of "outflow going downstream", SRP is withdrawing water from the reservoir at all times they can (up to 35 cubic feet/second per published data.) To my knowledge there is no pump that ...
by nonot
Aug 20 2021 9:40 am
Forum: Fauna
Topic: Arizona wildlife sightings
Replies: 120
Views: 9894

Re: Arizona wildlife sightings

Lower ECC / Leonard Canyon would seem to be a good home for a bighorn herd, but is not suitable during a sustained drought. During a drought, the water diversion of the Craigin reservoir would probably force that herd leave the area in search of actual reliable water (such as moving over into West C...
by nonot
Aug 17 2021 4:09 pm
Forum: Grand Canyon Forum
Topic: LCR Big Canyon pumped hydro project
Replies: 14
Views: 932

Re: LCR Big Canyon pumped hydro project

Was a bit confused at first, but this article has really nothing to do with the LCR, and is about the recovery of Glen Canyon and discussion of its future. Good read! Thanks for posting.
by nonot
Aug 11 2021 11:05 am
Forum: Road Conditions
Topic: US60 road-work
Replies: 15
Views: 1388

Re: US60 work between Superior and Miami

The same thing happened about 2 weeks ago, flash flood damage left between 1-2 feet of mud and debris on the highway for about 5 miles before Miami continuing into the town itself. ADOT had a small army out there. There simply isn't enough capacity in the drainage to handle the post-fire flooding, w...
by nonot
Aug 01 2021 4:43 pm
Forum: Road Conditions
Topic: FR 487
Replies: 42
Views: 2917

Re: FR 487

Did you venture past the bridge or find the sinkhole that was reported above? Last time I was up there there was significant erosion damage on the road about a quarter mile past the bridge.
by nonot
Jul 26 2021 2:12 pm
Forum: Trail Chat
Topic: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"
Replies: 132
Views: 5543

Re: Union wants to close some trails because "ermagherd so warm"

chumley wrote: Jul 26 2021 2:08 pm We have no rationale for doing what we did but at least we're doing something! :lol:
Quite correct, the 12 hospitalized firefighters, 2 of which suffered kidney failures, fail to qualify as rationale. Good to see sympathy being expressed on this message board towards the first responders!

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