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I can only go on what I see here since the only time I've ever directly met you was on the side of Peeley while on a search pattern for GPS Joe. Not much time to get to know a person =)Tough_Boots wrote:I think your "reality" and interpretation of your "experience" might be dangerously flawed if you think I "believe the city can do no wrong" just because I don't have a problem with an inexpensive yearly pass for a service that is probably used by more non-city residents than city residents and that I think people we place into government should be educated and experienced in the fields they are dealing with.
Sometimes the fix isn't a repair of the existing, but a replacement of the failed. You and I both know you understand this though.Tough_Boots wrote:Are you talking about the American Revolution? Do you think the United States government existed before the revolution? How did that restore something that didn't exist before?
In a few hundred years I'm sure someone will look back at you and wonder why you killed all the seagulls with your pollution to create electricity and spewed forth more pollution from your vehicle and wonder why you didn't try harder too. Or how you buy and use products that were manufactured by modern day 'slaves' in 3rd world countries.Tough_Boots wrote:They could have tried a little harder-- they were still owning slaves a couple hundred years after Europe began abolition. I wonder what their concept of freedom and rights actually were because even in the late 1700's they were way behind the times-- must of had something to do with their pocketbooks.
at least we can probably all agree that parking meters are a bad ideachumley wrote:So. Parking meters.
that is a totally incorrect analogy... for that to be correct, the rest of the world would have outlawed pollution and sweatshops 200 years ago and I would be the only one still committing these atrocities with total disregard to modern ethics.Thoreau wrote:In a few hundred years I'm sure someone will look back at you and wonder why you killed all the seagulls with your pollution to create electricity and spewed forth more pollution from your vehicle and wonder why you didn't try harder too. Or how you buy and use products that were manufactured by modern day 'slaves' in 3rd world countries.
We'll just cast aside anything good you've ever done in light of the above atrocities.
no-- its not ok, but you can't realistically expect everyone to have an advanced sense of ethics. Ethics advance with time and its those who fight against that who are the problem. Americans fought against this advancement and we ended up having a slaughter we call the Civil War. The Civil War wasn't Americans fighting to make the world right-- it was modern culture slamming America in the face because it couldn't exist alongside our atrocities any more.Thoreau wrote:So because others still do it, it's okay. Interesting.
Now that we've established the above, feel free to take it back the chain and realize that the mythical creatures absolutely can and sometimes do resolve governmental wrongs. Damn 'average citizens' and their rabble rousing!Tough_Boots wrote:no-- its not ok
The fees do in fact fund the Maricopa Parks.jochal wrote:I would be open to paying fees if they are truly reasonable, and if its shown that the money is going directly to the benefit of the park
I hope they survive the climate better than the meters used in the Supes under the fee demonstration program.jochal wrote:Looks like they are choosing to discriminate against slow hikers like me by going with meters
You're a ditzy blonde who just graduated from Journalism School whose lifelong goal is to host Good Morning America? ;)BobP wrote:I spoke with a woman from abc news 15 ... and we are of like minds.
Either that or just happy that you've made a success out of yourself in the 12th largest media market in the country.chumley wrote:You're a ditzy blonde who just graduated from Journalism School whose lifelong goal is to host Good Morning America? ;)BobP wrote:I spoke with a woman from abc news 15 ... and we are of like minds.
-notification via azcentral mobile appPhoenix has dropped proposal to install parking meters at 3 popular trailheads following public outcry