The Scourge of the Americas arrived earlier than Thought

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The Scourge of the Americas arrived earlier than Thought

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This is so exciting! I've been hoping for years that the irrefutable evidence would emerge to get the Pre-Clovis deniers to relent. I hope this is it.
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I'm going to have to update all my social media virtue signaling when I acknowledge that my hikes happen on land that was previously walked on by other people.
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@chumley
"Ancestral homeland of the pre Clovis people"
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big_load wrote:to get the Pre-Clovis deniers to relent.
Right after the Creationists and the Flat Earthers.
What impact does this have on the Bering Strait pedestrians and the Viking theories?
Btw, probably wasn't funded by this museum. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Science_Museum
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So the viking theory really has never gotten much traction as there's not a lot of evidence that they were widespread and they definitely weren't the closest to be the earliest. The Bering Strait hypothesis has also *mainly* been dead/expanded by people in the field for a little while now in favor of the boat theory: the same people taking boats and heading down the west coast, basically, which helps support some of these findings of people all down in NM and the like. There's also the fun theory of some movement from the polynesian islands to central/south america backed up a lot by the polynesians having some new world food like sweet potatoes long before currently known trade routes were established.

Those are the quick talking points, at least, there's obviously a lot more to it and nothing is ever settled, of course.
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An interesting find, def turns some thing upside down in the study of the early inhabitants of this continent. Although, as the article pointed out, there has been evidence now for several decades that the Bearing Strait theory and mass immigration theory over a now submerged land bridge may have been flawed, but researchers are usually not as quick to adopt the science when it undoes decades of their communities accepted beliefs and theories. The controversy surrounding the "Kennewick" man may foreshadow some of the disputes that may arise from this more concrete example of human habitation of this continent before the arrival of the accepted "Native" Americans. I find it pretty fascinating overall and will be interested to see how this recalibrates accepted thought and theories pertaining to the prehistory of this content and etc...
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@xsproutx
and lets not even start on the molars...
https://cosmosmagazine.com/history/thre ... -lives-on/
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Oh that's interesting! Hadn't run across that piece of info before
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That was two earlier sets of Thanksgiving Dinners. Noah wasn't invited.
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Well , I protest the marginalizing of the Neanderthals. I read somewhere where some scientists blame Neanderthal remnant genetics on why European ancestry is having such a hard time with Covid vs African origin. What Racism is that!!
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RedRoxx44 wrote: I read somewhere where some scientists blame Neanderthal remnant genetics on why European ancestry is having such a hard time with Covid vs African origin. What Racism is that!!
I've read that the biggest determinants for a country's overall infection rate are the mobility of its society (both domestically and internationally), population density, workplace safety, vaccination rate and overall public health (i.e. access to medical treatment, nutrition, etc.).
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