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Same here...Barrett wrote:Count me out.
I was there at the movie as well -- this is very fair editorial on the post movie Q & A. If you don't want to have people there -- don't make a movie and show it and then qualify it with " invite the right kind". No movies, No charging for movies , no books, no " I will take you because you are the "right kind" , no crowds ....Go enjoy your canyons on your own and be very quite about it....CannondaleKid wrote: On Wednesday we went to the showing of Gorging in Tempe and afterwards they had a question and answer session with the producer and participants in the movie. It seemed to me quite a paradox... spread the word about the sport of 'gorging' but just don't tell the wrong people.
Wolfgang Schuster in particular, (president of the Coalition of American Canyoneers) seemed to take it a bit too far... I was very put off by his comments. He exuded an arrogance of the need to be first to go through a canyon, but keep it private and don't tell others! He complained about the crowds now showing up to pass through the same canyons... Ha! Welcome to today's world buddy!
This same theme seems to be prevalent through the efforts of the American Canyoneers organization... they fight with the government to prevent wilderness areas from being closed to or at least a permit system to limit the numbers, yet on the other hand complain about the excessive numbers of people in those same areas. So how do you balance the two?
Wolfgang's solution appears to be let me and my buddies do what we want where we want but don't allow the same for everyone else. Yup, a real positive solution, wouldn't you say?
All that aside, the movie itself was great, but you won't ever see me doing that.
As long as you didn't tell azbackpacker she should go out and vote for somebody you should be ok.friendofThundergod wrote:Ok that is my first time expressing a strong opinion...maybe too much coffee today..
That's the reason I wear Columbia, especially in WA. If you're not wearing Mountain Hardware, REI, or North Face you're obviously too stupid to flip burgers and you're also the one who throws their Budlite cans all over the place.friendofThundergod wrote:
..but he fit that sometimes typical "hiker elitists" profile, of the guy who thinks you are wrong, because you are not doing something that is consistent with their values, or because you are doing something that does not appeal to them.
Totally Agree with you here -- I really enjoyed the movie itself and would recommend it.Outdoor Lover wrote:"Gorging" was very interesting to me as well...It invokes a lot of thought as Brian (the Director/Producer/Filmmaker) shows three different Perspectives of some of the Pioneers of Canyoneering and shows you how they can affect the Canyoneers that are going into the Sport now.... ...But, I thought Brian did a really nice Job with the Film itself...
I believe he did a super job, as did the other cameraman right there, stemming along with him.desertgirl wrote:Re: OutdoorLover's comment I thought Brian did a really nice Job with the Film itself...
Totally Agree with you here -- I really enjoyed the movie itself and would recommend it.