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CQ HAZ Ham's (AKA Amateur Radio operators)

Post by BEEBEE » Apr 22 2012 10:55 am

HAZ Ham's (AKA Amateur Radio operators)

I am posting this thread to see how many other Ham's are active in the Haz hiking community. I have discovered a fellow ham on Haz through some photos that were posted showing me working people on 2 meters from Browns peak.

If you’re a Ham radio operator introduce yourself maybe we can get a hiking related net going or incorporate the 2 activities more. Field day event for example.

My call is W7JET and I can operate 2 meters and 70 cm portable and Mobile. I have HF and 6 meters but I operate fixed 6 meters and below.
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Post by jochal » Apr 26 2012 10:07 am

@Thoreau Thanks so much for the detailed response. I'll probably also consider some of the cheaper and smaller units, but it looks like they don't have as much power. The 8gr is spec'd at 9 ounces. I'm pretty sure I can find 9 ounces to remove from my pack. APRS wasn't something I was considering...but now it is.

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Post by BEEBEE » Apr 27 2012 11:40 am

Kenwood also makes an APRS handheld. I have been a kenwood guy for a long time but I also own Yaseu and Icom. I stick to Kenwood for HF but run ICOM and Alinco on VHF. I eventually want to get an APRS capable HT.
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Post by BEEBEE » Apr 27 2012 11:43 am

HippyHaley wrote:@BEEBEE
hello! I am not a HAM but my dad (KJ7LO) is and a few years back he and I use to run the campground at the Fort Tuthill HAM Festival up near flagstaff!
My sister (KC7MQY) is also a HAM as is my grandfather I forget his call, I've always been studying but never got serious enough although I do know a LOT of other HAMS and for the places I hike and backpack it would be great to have handy!!
Anyone wanna be my tutor? :D
I am a VE (ham examiner) and can point you to some resources if you like.

Looks like the ham biz is a family biz

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Post by JAWSnAZ » Aug 27 2012 5:39 pm

Hello All.

I just passed my Ham test for Tech on 8/25/12 and have a Yaesu FT-817nd. :y:

I would be interested in doing some hikes with another experienced Hams so I can learn a lot more about mobile operation.

I don't have my call sign yet but hope to see it soon.

Contact me and let's see if we can put something together.

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Post by Grasshopper » Aug 28 2012 1:47 pm

JAWSnAZ wrote:I just passed my Ham test for Tech on 8/25/12
: app : and when issued, do let us know what your call sign is.
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Post by BEEBEE » Sep 06 2012 6:42 am

I just passed my Ham test for Tech on 8/25/12 and have a Yaesu FT-817nd.

I would be interested in doing some hikes with another experienced Hams so I can learn a lot more about mobile operation.

I don't have my call sign yet but hope to see it soon.

Contact me and let see if we can put something together.

YourRealtorJayLewis@gmail.com
I am Jealous the FT-817ND is a great radio for QRP Backpacking. It’s on my wish list.

My call is W7JET. I can run 2m, 1 ¼ meters, 70cm and HF. I only run VHF/UHF Mobile and Portable until I have enough pennies saved for the 817.

When you get you call post it on here or PM me.

Welcome to Ham Radio

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Post by JAWSnAZ » Sep 06 2012 10:47 am

Hello again.

Got my call sign last week and came back to post it.

KF7YKC

Kilo Foxtrot Seven Yankee Kilo Charie......lol

I am also in the process of joining a Boy Scout troop. If anyone lives in the North West valley, I would love to introduce the boys to ham radio and help them get their "Radio merit badge".
See info on Radio merit Badge here - http://meritbadge.org/wiki/index.php/Radio
See info on Boy Scout "On-The-Air" Jamboree here - http://www.scouting.org/jota.aspx

Troop 298 meets at the Elks club on 107th Ave & Union Hills
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Post by BEEBEE » Sep 06 2012 11:36 am

Congrats on the callsign, In the mornings I am on the W7ARA Chase Tower Machine in PHX. 146.640 - split pl 162.2 or the 147.120 + split pl 162.2.

KF7YKC de W7JET
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Post by Hippy » Sep 06 2012 4:43 pm

@BEEBEE I'm a pseudo Ham, but my Pop is a full blown HAM-geek, KJ7LO is his call. We use to be the campground hosts at the field days at Ft. Tuthill back in like 1998-2002. still working on my license i have more time now maybe i'll get back to studying! if anyone knows of any good study tips let me know, i'm down. and it's always good to have a radio when you're in the backcountry!

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Post by BEEBEE » Sep 07 2012 6:54 am

I have used the phone patch a few times on the Mt Ord repeater a few times when I was in an area with no cell coverage to check it with home. I have also used ham radio to meet other hiking people. It is a great compliment to anybody who enjoys the outdoors.

I sent you a PM with some information on a test study site.
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Post by BEEBEE » Nov 30 2012 10:49 am

Here is some information on the Wilderness Protocol for my fellow Hiking Hams who may not be aware of it.

In the Phoenix Area 146.520 is not a great frequency as there is always a group rag chewing on it but out of the area it is good.

This was copied from http://k4jwm.com/wilderness-protocol.htm

Wilderness Protocol


One of the great features of Amateur Radio is it gives amateur radio operators the ability to provide mutual assistance to one another. This aid can come in the form of providing direct assistance and / or passing emergency communications to authorities. There are two common procedures or protocols currently in place for mutual assistance on VHF & UHF FM frequencies. The Wilderness Protocol defines frequencies and times to send and monitor for emergency and priority communications. The LiTZ Protocol defines a method of sending a tone to notify others of emergency or priority communications. It is important for all amateur radio operators to be familiar with both protocols in order to summons or provide help to others when needed. The protocols are more effective when more people use them.
Note - Emergency communications can be transmitted on any frequency at any time. The Wilderness Protocol and LiTZ Protocol are in place to aid communications when no response is received.




Monitoring The Wilderness Protocol
The purpose of this initiative is to offer amateur radio stations outside repeater range an opportunity to be heard when it is needed the most!

The Wilderness Protocol suggests radio operators (Amateur service) should monitor standard simplex channels at specific times in case of Emergency or Priority Calls.

Amateur Radio
Wilderness Protocol
Monitoring Frequencies
Band Mode MHz
2 Meter FM 146.520
6 Meter FM 52.525
222 Band FM 223.500
440 Band FM 446.000
23 Centimeters FM 1294.500
Amateur Rado
Wilderness Protocol
Monitoring Times
24 Hr AM / PM
0100 - 0105 1:00am - 1:05am
0400 - 0405 4:00am - 4:05am
0700 - 0705 7:00am - 7:05am
1000 - 1005 10:00am - 10:05am
1300 - 1305 1:00pm - 1:05pm
1600 - 1605 4:00pm - 4:05pm
1900 - 1905 7:00pm - 7:05pm
2200 - 2205 10:00pm - 10:05pm

The primary frequency monitored is 146.520 MHz, secondarily or alternatively 52.525 MHz, 223.500 MHz, 446.000 MHz and 1294.500 MHz respectively. The idea is to allow communications between hams that are hiking, backpacking or camping in uninhabited areas, outside repeater range an alternative opportunity to be heard.

NOTE - This is NOT just for hikers, back packers, campers or similar situations. It is for ANYONE to use at ANYTIME, that you need assistance!

Recommended Use of "Wilderness Protocol"

MONITOR FREQUENCIES - Monitor the Primary Frequency - 146.520 MHz and any or all of the Secondary Frequencies - 52.525 MHz, 223.500 MHz, 446.000 MHz , 1294.500 MHz.

MONITOR TIMING - Monitor every 3 hours from 7:00 am (0700 Hrs) until 5 (five) minutes past the hour 7:05am (0705 Hrs). Monitoring times: 7:00am - 7:05am, 10:00am - 10:05am, 1:00pm - 1:05pm, 4:00pm - 4:05pm, 7:00pm - 7:05pm, 10:00pm - 10:05pm, 1:00am - 1:05am, 4:00am - 4:05am.

ALTERNATE TIMING - Monitor every 3 hours as suggested above, however monitor 5 minutes before the hour till 5 minutes past the hour. In case users watch is incorrect.

ENHANCED MONITORING - Fixed stations or portable stations with enough battery power listen every hour at the top of the hour. Continuous monitoring is also an effective option.

SCANNING MONITOR - Consider entering 146.520 MHz, 52.525 MHz, 223.500 MHz, 446.000 MHz and 1294.500 MHz in to your scanner radio, or extended scanning monitor radio.

INFORMING OTHERS - Remind others of this protocol at meetings, on nets and in the field.

CALLING FREQUENCY - 146.520 MHz is a calling frequency. Make your calls, and then move off the frequency so others can use the frequency. Suggested frequencies to move to 146.550 MHz, 146.430 MHz, etc. Suggested use 4 minutes after the hour. This timing would help those in trouble not be covered up.

USE THE LiTZ (LONG TONE ZERO - On Touch Tone Pad) - Begin calls for assistance with 10 or more seconds of Tone with the LiTZ (Long Tone Zero) signal.

REMEMBER - These are Calling Frequencies, and standard calling should only start at 4 minutes after the hour preceded by listening for 30 seconds. Listen First then Call CQ with short transmissions, then carefully listen. Listen First is always a best practice.




History of the Wilderness Protocol
by Michael Potaczala, KC4NUS,
Orange County ARES, Florida

Recently, I found a book by fellow Floridian Reid Tillery, KG4YFE.
An avid hiker and camper, he has a section in his book about radio
use for those traveling in wild areas. Part of it covered the
"Wilderness Protocol for Amateur Radio."

In February 1994 QST, William Alsup, N6XMW, put forth this idea: a
set of VHF and UHF frequencies and a basic schedule for monitoring
the frequencies for contact from Amateur Radio operators in
wilderness areas.

The primary frequency band proposed was two-meters with secondary
frequencies on six-meters, 1.25-meters, 70-centimeters, and
23-centimeters. I expect by no coincidence, the simplex frequencies
N6XMW suggested are also the National Simplex Calling frequencies or
the Primary Simplex frequency for the bands in his proposal. The
frequencies for the Wilderness Protocol are 52.525 MHz, 146.520 MHz,
223.500 MHz, 446.000 MHz and, 1294.500 MHz.

The proposed schedule for monitoring the frequencies is every three
hours on the hour starting at 7 AM local time until 7 PM local time.
For those radio amateurs with more time or a scanner, monitoring more
often is encouraged. The basic schedule gives someone who is out of
cellular service range and not able to contact a repeater a specific
time when someone should be listening to get word to the proper
authorities in the event of an emergency situation.

The base monitoring time is 5 minutes. I also found suggestions to
start monitoring 5 minutes before the hour every other time so that
minor differences on the clock of monitoring hams and hams in the
woods would not cause them to miss each other. Making daily contact
with a hiker to know an extended hike is going without incident, or
to pass routine traffic to and from family was another suggested use
for hams with opportunity to monitor the Wilderness Protocol
frequencies regularly.

It occurred to me that having hams following the Wilderness Protocol
can be of use to more than hikers and campers. Throughout the
country hams are on the road traveling for business and pleasure.
While cellular phones have become a common belt-looped appliance,
there are many locations where "no signal" is the only message they
will display. Vehicle accidents, mechanical failures, and worse can
happen along any stretch of road.

So whether you are near a national forest, a large wooded park, or on
the outer edge of suburbia, monitoring at least the primary two-meter
frequency of the Amateur Radio Wilderness Protocol may provide needed
assistance to someone in dire straits. I encourage all ARES groups to
include the Wilderness Protocol in their local membership manuals and
to recommend to their membership to monitor the associated
frequencies as regularly as they want their membership to be
monitoring their local ARES repeaters. — Michael Potaczala, KC4NUS,
Orange County ARES, Florida See also:
<http://www.floridaadventuring.com/>;
<http://www.tcoe.trinity.k12.ca.us/~tcarc/tcproto.html>;
<http://www.arsqrp.com/ars/pages/cumlati ... rness.html>;
ARES Field Resources Manual (Appendix 10, page 87).

Source: http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/ares-e ... 2005-12-21

Please use http://k4jwm.com/wilderness-protocol when linking to this page.


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Post by SgtLumpy » Mar 09 2013 8:25 am

BEEBEE wrote:
...In the Phoenix Area 146.520 is not a great frequency as there is always a group rag chewing on it...

On the contrary...
I invite you to consider this -

There is ALWAYS at least a couple of people. sometimes dozens of people, listening on 52. There is literally NEVER a time when you can't raise someone. That seems like a pretty ideal frequency for use when you run into problems. If you're hiking, and don't want to hear radio traffic, turning your HT OFF will achieve that every time. If you're hiking and NEED to call for help, or are just curious how your simplex signal is getting out, then turning your HT ON will achieve that every time.

A simplex frequency that's monitored 24/7 by lots of people with good stations/antennas, and familiar with the area/propagation/resources etc, how could that possibly be a bad thing?


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Post by jameslcox44 » Feb 16 2017 9:32 pm

@BEEBEE
I am jameslcox44 and our hiking club at Venture Out has been approached by our local HAM group. We are investigating whether the portable HAM radio's would be an advantage for our members. We currently have the emergency satellite transmitter after using the SPOT. We thought the SPOT annual subscription made a better purchase than the federal device that has not annual subscription after purchase of the device. Are you able to make HAM calls from areas in the Tonto National Forest/Wilderness area that would make it compatible with the devices I described? Would you explain the benefits of the HAM over the devices I mention? thanks, Jim 515-999-9554

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Brian's work now has him this week not local. I will link to him your forum comment/questions so he can reply back when he is available.
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Post by jameslcox44 » Feb 17 2017 4:39 pm

Thank you, I failed the initial test but wanted to chat with Brian before I spent serious time studying.
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Post by BEEBEE » Feb 17 2017 6:13 pm

@jameslcox44
Jim unless your in a canyon most places in AZ have some Amateur radio coverage. I always have my HT with me and I run APRS as well to make it easier for friends and family to keep track of me. APRS is a good tool but does not have 100% coverage however its free and the tracking map is open access. I am home till Thursday so I will try to touch base with you this weekend.
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