Mogollon Rim, Payson suggestions.

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Mogollon Rim, Payson suggestions.

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I'm staying in AJ and have a few days to hike/backpack and would like to explore the Mogollon Rim area. I've spent lots of time in the Goldfield Mtns and the Superstitions and want to explore a new (for me) area. I have a 4wd vehicle for camping. Thanks.
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@Mr_Squishy

I mean, if you haven't explored at all up there, Cabin Loop is the natural suggestion. Bit chilly up there at night right now but if you have the right gear, no biggie. Outside of that, the stretch of AZT between Pine and the rim is pretty fantastic you should be able to arrange however a long trip you want to do pretty easily. These suggestions are coming from a backpacking perspective, but the Cabin Loop can be done in a car camping way, too, with out and backs on a portion, move your car, out and back on another.
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For backpacking, much, if not all, of the Highline trail is good. Especially if you can setup a shuttle as many of the loop options involve poor trails or road hiking. It's slightly past season though so make sure you have the right gear.
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Thanks for the suggestions. I am from Alaska, so cold weather is no problem - I have the gear and the experience.
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@nonot Thanks for the suggestions. I am from Alaska, so cold weather is no problem - I have the gear and the experience.
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When you say "chilly", what should I expect for nighttime temps? Do you think a tent is necessary or can I cowboy camp with a good bag and bivy?
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The lows are right around/right below freezing right now at night and the highs are in the mid-50s. As for a tent, I'd say it would depend on two things: whether there's snow or it's going to be windy. Tents don't really provide a whole ton of heat retention, just a couple degrees really, but they definitely help keep the wind off of you so that can make all the difference. Some bivys are better than others in that regard, depending on if it's one of the more solid ones or just pure bug mesh outside of the lower portion. I've cowboy camped plenty of times in freezing temperatures but wouldn't do it if I expected a windy night at those temperatures.
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I'm taking a tarp and I have a good Borah Bivy; it's not a bug bivy. The ranger said it has been windy, so between the tarp and the bivy I should be good. Thanks for the info. I'm used to camping in these conditions.
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OK, one last question: clockwise or counterclockwise and why.....thanks
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Nice, I have the borah bug bivy myself. Nice piece of kit.

It depends on where you start, really. If starting from General Springs, which seems to be a popular place to start, I'd probably start counter-clockwise just to get the 300 "road" walk out of the way first. Additionally, Barbershop trail is a bit up and down so getting that out of the way with fresher legs might be desirable. Personally, I like starting at Pinchot cabin; a lot of that is just avoiding 300 as that can be a crap show to drive on because there are just a ton of people many times. If I start from there, I like going clockwise because I usually get up there later in the day and it's a short hike to the barbershop canyon crossing, which has an amazing camp site, or to Dane Spring if that's taken, which is one of my favorite places to camp up there. Additionally, maybe you'll end your trip late in the day with a long drive home that you don't want to do, so you can just spend the last night in the area around the cabin which is beautiful and has flowing water, leaving you with a bit less than a quarter mile to hike out in the morning.
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Thanks for the beta. This is a whole new area for me so I'm appreciative of the information. I'm driving up from AJ, planning to camp in my van, then do the loop. I figured I'd also spend the night of my return in the van, then drive back the next moring.
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Have fun; it's a nice taster for Northern Arizona. Have a couple meadows, some small canyons, forests. Good stuff
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