In response to AZ_Hiker's reply:
I use a Turbo 270 stove (it breaks down to fit into my pocket or hand if need be). It uses a butane/propane mix (not many options with this stove, but it's always served my purpose). If I'm going only over night, I'll bring a tank that is only 1/4 to 1/2 full (you can weigh these to know how much you have left, this is the down side to this stove and the bulk of the tank). I think experience also tells you how much fuel you will be needing.
I canned my cooking pot (unless I bring someone out with me who doesn't have a stove, or we are sharing gear, meals or in a large group). I've also got rid of the cover, tinfoil works just as well and reduces some ounces and bulk, yet allows the water to heat up quickly (if 16 ounces is a pound and I can shave an ounce here and there, it all adds up).
I use the freeze dried food for a few reasons, it's lightweight, easy prep, instant bowl to eat out of and uses less fuel (all I have to do is boil my water and wait 10 minutes, instead of boiling the water and cooking 5-20 minutes). I bring a 2-cup metal cup instead of a pot, it fits perfect over my nalgen bottle or over the the fuel tank and it has 2 purposes, I can boil the water for my meals (generally 1-2 cups for freeze dried foods, where my pot is 4 cups and generally I don't need that much) and I can use the cup for soups, hot chocolate, or teas to drink out of later! Again, I use tinfoil to cover while the water is heating up.
If you want to bail on hot meals, I like the Salmon, chicken and Tuna in the pouches, they aren't bulky, but they do weight in a bit. I carry these any ways as I have "protein crashes" when I hike and this is the best way for me to get my blood sugars back to where they need to be. There are really great packets of peanut butter at the grocery stores too. All of this is cheaper than freeze dried foods.
If I'm sharing meals, I will use a plate that I saved from a Healthy Choice meal, these are VERY light weight, somewhat flexible and works great!
I try to keep my pack at 30 ponds or less and can do a weekend backpacking trip without feeling like I've compromised my comfort. I do have to admit, with my new pack (converted from a 5100 ci to a 3000 ci Arc`teryx and doubles as my crag pack) I've added a few pounds(go figure).....but the comfort of the pack out weighs the poundage for me (I'm female AND short, which makes fitting hard)!
My last trip was 36 pounds for 2 nights and 3 days, including 4 liters of water (four added pounds for the pack), when I got back I realized I could have bailed on my gortex rain gear (2 pounds which I can also lighten when it's summer) (also 2 purposes, keeps me dry and comfortable in rain and also keeps me warm and sheltered from wind if needed) as well as a few other things which have found their way OUT of my pack!
I'm certain there are many other ways that I can reduce weight. Each trip, I look at what I didn't need (I call this the shake down....and like to do a shake down trip before a long trip). I'm doing 2 trips this coming week, this weekend, an over nighter and next week 5 nights and 6 days. I'll let you know what the weight was when I left (including water). I like to bring a pencil with me, to write down things I wish I had taken with me.
With enough practice I'm certain I'll be able to be quit efficient!
Hope this information helps some, if anything it's rather cheap, the cup and tin foil and old Healthy choice plate and a few grocery store items. (I like to be comfortable, but like it to be cheap and am finding a lot of alternatives to buying gear).
Last edited by Shi
on Oct 31 2003 2:38 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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