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Never had a bad experience with a mountain bike, but the CT was choked full with mountain bikers in the non-wilderness areas and it certainly makes for some less than ideal hiking...Nearly every thru-hiker I met was grateful to reach the confines of wilderness areas where they were not allowed...can't think of any good reason why not
mountain bikers are not traditional users, such as hikers or horse-packers. Mountain bikes were not commercially produced for off-road use until the early 1980s. By allowing them to proliferate in roadless areas, the Forest Service nourishes yet another anti-wilderness constituency
When mechanized mountain bikers demand access to proposed and designated wilderness, they fail to understand that if they succeed, owners of unimagined future contraptions will certainly demand equal treatment. So will modern-day snow machine and all-terrain vehicle owners. To loosen wildland restrictions now starts us down that slippery slope.
When you objectively compare the impacts made to the land on a mountain biking trail vs a wilderness trail, in my experience one definitely leaves much more damage, and a less pristine landscape compared to the other. ;)nathanbrisk wrote:certainly bikes leave a mark, but so do we.
Personally I thoroughly enjoy hiking, mountain biking as well 4-wheeling (Jeep not ATV), and while being a strong proponent of all three, there ARE numerous 'good' reasons why NOT to allow bikes in Wilderness areas.nathanbrisk wrote:i just don't find them to be very good reasons. certainly bikes leave a mark, but so do we. i'm definitely grateful that motorized vehicles aren't allowed in the wilderness, but i just don't put mountain bikers into that same category.
I'd be interested to know why you feel that way toward motorized vehicles.nathanbrisk wrote:i'm definitely grateful that motorized vehicles aren't allowed in the wilderness
I believe the gist of the article linked is down to Utah reps tired of "another overreaching federal regulation that hamstrings locals".afrankie wrote:any idea of what/which areas instigated this?
It wasn't an area. It's a political stunt. Mike Lee, the Republican Utah senator is up for re-election this year. He sees the polls and knows that Trump does not poll very well in Utah (not compared to McCain or Romney for sure). And Lee also knows that he has a bad environmental record, which does not help with younger voters (4% rating according to the League of Conservation Voters). The big Outdoor Retailer show was in Salt Lake City this week, attracting a lot of attention to outdoor recreation in Utah. So, he timed the release of this bill to coincide with the meeting and to give himself some cred on environmental issues with younger and outdoorsy voters.afrankie wrote:any idea of what/which areas instigated this? moab's getting out-grown