Grand Gulch 2010

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Type Standard Hike, Climb, etc
 
Start Date 2010-03-13
 
# of days 1

Which Route?

Poll ended at Jan 01 2010 1:12 pm

Kane Gulch to Grand Gulch, and out Bullet (or the reverse) - 24ish miles/3 days
3
33%
Bullet Canyon to Grand Gulch, and out Government (or the reverse) - 26ish miles/3 days
0
No votes
Government Trail to Grand Gulch, and out at Collins Spring (or the reverse) - 20ish miles/3 days
5
56%
Collins Springs to Grand Gulch/Lower Grand Gulch and out Collins - Miles and days variable
0
No votes
Kane Gulch to Grand Gulch and out Collins Spring - 50ish miles/5 days?
0
No votes
Other (please specify)
1
11%
 
Total votes: 9

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Grand Gulch 2010

Post by PaleoRob » Dec 17 2009 1:12 pm

Alright, we've got a place and we've got a date. March 13th-15th, we'll be hiking about 20-ish miles from the Government Trail to Collins Canyon, seeing lots of awesome rock art and Anasazi ruins along the way. Group size will be limited to 12 (10 slots plus me and my wife, though she might back out), due to BLM permit restrictions. Dogs are welcome on-leash, but not in ruins or at rock art sites, so be aware of that. If other participants don't want dogs on the trip, we may reconsider that.
Weather is variable - can be warm or we could get snow. Roads to the trailheads are dirt. Collins Canyon is decent, but Government requires 4x4, but carpooling is preferable anyway, since parking is limited. 3 days in one of the most beautiful and rich canyons in the southwest; what's not to like?
Last edited by PaleoRob on Mar 12 2010 3:25 pm, edited 4 times in total.
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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by rushthezeppelin » Dec 30 2009 11:04 pm

oliverr99 wrote:We were wondering what happened to you Chris! Nice to see you. It would be fun to hike with you again. Good luck on your studies.
Ya I spent most of the summer doing bass fishing at night outa my kayak and the last few months I've literally spent 12+ hours a day on schoolwork :?

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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by nonot » Dec 30 2009 11:12 pm

Got any tips on bass fishing spots...I thought AZ was all about trout?
http://hikearizona.com/garmin_maps.php

Hike Arizona it is full of sharp, pointy, ankle-twisting, HAZmaster crushing ROCKS!!
Hike Arizona it is full of sharp, pointy, shin-stabbing, skin-shredding plants!
Hike Arizona it is full of striking, biting, stabbing, venomous wildlife!

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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by rushthezeppelin » Dec 31 2009 9:15 am

Saguaro was treating me quite well for a while there. Think me and every other fishermen there spent most of the late summer and fall using drop shot rigs with a robo-worm on it. The bass were just eating it like it was candy and I got a few good 6+ lunkers with it too. Pretty much any of the Salt River lakes (from roosevelt to even tempe town lake) will have a good amount of largemouth and Apache has alot of smallies. Speaking of trout though I just actually got a nice fly fishing setup for xmas so I'm going to be trying my hand at that this spring :D

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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by PaleoRob » Jan 02 2010 8:24 pm

Whelp, happy 2010 everyone. Looks like the majority opinion is for a Government-Collins trip. Looks for some dates to pop up here on a different thread ('cause I think its only one poll per thread) within the next day, but keep checking back here for details on the trip itself..
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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by PaleoRob » Jan 03 2010 7:13 pm

Poll for the dates is up:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4699&start=0
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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by PaleoRob » Jan 10 2010 8:44 pm

Got the original post updated, and dates/trail associated. Will probably call the permit office this week with numbers from interest here to get the permit ball rolling.
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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by Randal_Schulhauser » Jan 10 2010 9:57 pm

Got it on the calendar. Snow is guaranteed??? :D

PS. What do we know about "usually" reliable water sources along this route? :?

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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by PaleoRob » Jan 10 2010 10:04 pm

The Polly's Canyon spring should be good, but only 3 miles in I doubt we'll need to tank up there. I'm doing a bit of research on other water sources.
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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by big_load » Jan 10 2010 10:22 pm

PageRob wrote:I'm doing a bit of research on other water sources.
Arrowhead, Aqua Fina, Poland Spring, ... :sl:

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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by PaleoRob » Jan 11 2010 6:17 am

I prefer to pack in Perrier myself.
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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by rushthezeppelin » Jan 11 2010 10:52 am

PageRob wrote:I prefer to pack in Perrier myself.
I can't help but think of president Scrooge from Spaceballs with his Perriair every time I see that stuff : P

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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by Vaporman » Jan 11 2010 7:08 pm

I'd love to do this hike but I have a 3-day Aravaipa backpacking trip planned the following weekend. I'll see if I can get both that Monday and Friday off that week...
Yea, canyoneering is an extreme sport... EXTREMELY dramatic!!! =p

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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by Randal_Schulhauser » Jan 11 2010 7:32 pm

OK, need some help refreshing my memory, but how far was Big Man Panel http://hikearizona.com/phoZOOM.php?ZIP=91319 from the junction with Government Trail/Grand Gulch? Know this trek is planning to head downstream in Grand Gulch to Collins, but wondering if a side trek to Big Man Panel is really close to the junction... :wrt:

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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by Vaporman » Jan 11 2010 7:44 pm

Yea, Big Man Panel was pretty close to the Gov't trail. :)
Yea, canyoneering is an extreme sport... EXTREMELY dramatic!!! =p

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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by PaleoRob » Jan 11 2010 7:44 pm

If we drop packs, we could be up and back to Polly's in 40-ish minutes, I'd guess.
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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by PaleoRob » Jan 11 2010 7:50 pm

If I'm pinpointing it correctly, the Big Man panel is here: http://hikearizona.com/location_g.php?L ... =17&M=5&G=
And we get to the canyon bottom here: http://hikearizona.com/location_g.php?L ... =17&M=5&G=
Looks like it's "just around the corner" ;)
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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by Randal_Schulhauser » Jan 11 2010 7:52 pm

Big Man Panel http://hikearizona.com/phoZOOM.php?ZIP=91320 was last year's "BIG WOW". Lot's of other high-lights, but that's the one that keeps percolating up to the top for me!

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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by oliverr99 » Jan 12 2010 7:02 pm

PageRob wrote:If I'm pinpointing it correctly, the Big Man panel is here: http://hikearizona.com/location_g.php?L ... =17&M=5&G=
And we get to the canyon bottom here: http://hikearizona.com/location_g.php?L ... =17&M=5&G=
Looks like it's "just around the corner" ;)
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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by oliverr99 » Jan 12 2010 7:03 pm

I like to go, just not sure how I am going to get there, yet! I work on Friday, but can leave at 3:30ish. It will be nice to have that week off to recover, sleep in after the trip!

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Re: Grand Gulch 2010

Post by PaleoRob » Jan 12 2010 7:33 pm

Yeah, I work that Friday too. I'll be driving up after classes on Friday and car-camping probably out at Muley Point again.
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