Four Peaks Ridgeline Traverse 8.44 Miles 6800' elevation gai

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Linked Guide  • Four Peaks Mother Lode, AZ
Type Standard Hike, Climb, etc
 
Start Date 2013-02-24
 
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Four Peaks Ridgeline Traverse 8.44 Miles 6800' elevation gai

Post by Peter_Medal » Feb 19 2013 9:54 am

Sunday, February 24, 2013
7:00 AM

Fort McDowell Casino, This is just north of 87 (Beeline)
10438 N Fort Mcdowell Road , Fort McDowell, AZ

Meet up at Fort McDowell Casino, 6:45 to 7AM.
7AM, drive North on Highway 87; 12 Miiles to FOUR PEAKS ROAD. Take FOUR PEAKS ROAD 15.1 Miles to the MUD SPRINGS TRAILHEAD
Those with cars or a low profile vehicle are recommended to carpool from the meetup spot. Four Peaks road is a rugged path for high profile vehicles only.

This hike goes up 4.22 miles then back; 8.44 cumulative hike miles. There is 6300' in cumulative Elevation Gain. The first few miles are fairly easy; once we hit the peaks, there is some non-technical rock climbing.

Four Peaks, at 7657 ft in altitude, is a prominent landmark on the eastern skyline of Phoenix, part of the Mazatzal Mountains. It is located in the Tonto National Forest 40 mi east-northeast of Phoenix, in the 60740 acre Four Peaks Wilderness. On rare occasions, Four Peaks offers much of the Phoenix metro area a view of snow covered peaks, and is the highest point in Maricopa County.

Google Earth 3D Flyover of the peaks:

http://mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb ... a323e4.kmz

Peter Medal
602-469-7400

meetup http://www.meetup.com/TLC-Hiking-Group/ ... 104260572/

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Re: Four Peaks Ridgeline Traverse 8.44 Miles 6800' elevation

Post by chumley » Feb 19 2013 10:06 am

Hi Peter. :welcome:

The hike you are referencing is here on HAZ as the Four Peaks Mother Lode: http://hikearizona.com/decoder.php?ZTN=631

It is an extremely challenging but fun hike.

It will also be virtually impossible to do on February 24th. There is a lot of snow up there right now. And there is a storm expected this Wednesday with snow levels dropping below 3000 feet, so just driving up the Four Peaks Road may not be possible (or allowed if they close the gate).

Once snow falls in late autumn or early winter up on the peaks, it rarely melts until late spring. Much of this route consists of tight chutes that are protected from sun and collect snow all winter long.

I would watch the conditions and reconsider this one for spring.
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Re: Four Peaks Ridgeline Traverse 8.44 Miles 6800' elevation

Post by joebartels » Feb 19 2013 11:08 am

It's not for me but I know some love insane snow/ice conditions.

I added the meetup link to your post. Non-profit groups promoting hiking ( not promoting a website ) are welcome to post event-links ( not links to content that could be posted on HAZ ).
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Re: Four Peaks Ridgeline Traverse 8.44 Miles 6800' elevation

Post by rally_toad » Feb 19 2013 9:05 pm

Please be careful. This is an extremely difficult hike in favorable conditions and the conditions in February will be far from favorable. Icy, slippery rocks with extreme exposure would make for a potentially dangerous situation if anyone in your group is not prepared. I would recommend rescheduling this hike in the spring when the snow has melted.
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Re: Four Peaks Ridgeline Traverse 8.44 Miles 6800' elevation

Post by The_Eagle » Feb 19 2013 9:46 pm

Forecast - Four Peaks

Tonight:
Snow showers after 11pm. Low around 28. Breezy, with a south southwest wind 21 to 24 mph, with gusts as high as 33 mph.
Chance of precipitation is 80%.
Total nighttime snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches possible.

Wednesday:
Snow showers. Temperature falling to around 25 by 4pm. Windy, with a west southwest wind 22 to 25 mph, with gusts as high as 40 mph.
Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 4 to 8 inches possible.

Wednesday Night:
Snow showers likely before 11pm. Mostly cloudy, with a steady temperature around 25. Breezy, with a west southwest wind 10 to 20 mph, with gusts as high as 30 mph.
Chance of precipitation is 60%.
New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible.
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Re: Four Peaks Ridgeline Traverse 8.44 Miles 6800' elevation

Post by louie » Feb 20 2013 12:35 am

You guys don't know medal. He's balls out! The dude packs cast iron pots when he backpacks. He's got good sense, but he'll go as far and as hard as he can until mother nature says no more.
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Re: Four Peaks Ridgeline Traverse 8.44 Miles 6800' elevation

Post by chumley » Feb 20 2013 7:30 am

louie wrote:The dude packs cast iron pots when he backpacks....he's got good sense
That seems like a bit of an oxymoron!

But it is good to hear he is an experienced hiker. As a HAZ noob, I will always err on the side of caution and make somebody aware of conditions and risks. It seems like he hasn't done this route previously. I still think the conditions this weekend won't make it a great idea for anybody's first motherlode, regardless of how hard core they might be.

I hope we get to read a triplog and see some photos next week!
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Re: Four Peaks Ridgeline Traverse 8.44 Miles 6800' elevation

Post by Tough_Boots » Feb 20 2013 7:59 am

In my opinion, if someone wants to motherlode during really dangerous conditions with a very small handpicked group of experienced folks they can rely on-- that's one thing. To create an open invite to a bunch of people with varying skill levels is another-- and one that would make me doubt one's judgement. No offense meant-- just sayin'.
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Re: Four Peaks Ridgeline Traverse 8.44 Miles 6800' elevation

Post by hippiepunkpirate » Feb 20 2013 8:15 am

@Tough_Boots My thoughts exactly
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Post by BobP » Feb 20 2013 8:40 am

Tough_Boots wrote:To create an open invite to a bunch of people with varying skill levels is another
Thats how the ML started...and I think only one guy out of a dozen completed it....and luckily the guys went back to help him because he was lost off-trail...



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Re: Four Peaks Ridgeline Traverse 8.44 Miles 6800' elevation

Post by louie » Feb 20 2013 9:22 am

@BobP
Agree. It just comes down to using common sense. If it gets to a point where folks are outside their comfort zone then you stop hiking. If you show up at the meeting point without cold weather gear you don't go on the hike. I've been on plenty of hikes where I've said I'm done, you guys go on, no way in hell I'm free climbing up that thing. Other times just got sick from exhaustion and had to stop.

What's great about this site is it gives people an open forum to post events, meet others with similar interests, and above all else give people someone to hike with so if they do get hurt they're not out there alone. People post all kinds of invites on this site from canyoneering to whitewater rafting. Like everything do a thorough investigation so you know what you're getting yourself into and if you get out there and decide this is crazy then stop, smell the flowers, relax and enjoy the nature and bring a good book to kill some time while you wait for the others to return.

Anyway the road alone will probably end this trip and I was kidding a bit about Medal backpacking cast iron pots. The dudes solid though, who else would backpack up Mount Union on the coldest night of the year?

This hike ain't for me so not doing it, but for those looking for this type of adventure go for it! But like everyone has said think long and hard before attempting the chute and if anything about it looks uncomfortable or unsafe don't do it. Just the snow hike alone to the base will be fun on it's own then folks can get a look at the chute and decide if it's for them.
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Re: Four Peaks Ridgeline Traverse 8.44 Miles 6800' elevation

Post by DBmooner » Feb 20 2013 5:12 pm

i agree with chumly you might want to reconsider moveing the date of your hike had a freind with ice gear try to get up Browns peak aka peak 1 of four peaks last week and he didnt make it he said the shoot was full of snow and was not safe to climb .

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Re: Four Peaks Ridgeline Traverse 8.44 Miles 6800' elevation

Post by DarthStiller » Feb 20 2013 10:21 pm

louie wrote:If it gets to a point where folks are outside their comfort zone then you stop hiking
The problem herein is that my understand of this "hike" is that once you're past the first peak (whichever direction you go) the bail out options are kind of nil. FYI. I agree on the invite thing creating a hazard for those who might not be aware of all the issues and dangers for this hike. Right now just going to Brown's Peak is a dicey proposition. The drive up to Lone Pine TH right now (Wed night) is dicey, even with 4WD. I was up there 2 sundays ago with my 4wd and almost slid off the road on the ride back down.

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Re: Four Peaks Ridgeline Traverse 8.44 Miles 6800' elevation

Post by BobP » Feb 21 2013 8:00 am

For those who didn't click the link and see what this group is about....

FYI, This is not a hiking group for beginners. This is not a group where you come to learn how to hike. This is a group for responsible adults and experienced hikers. This is a group that does not have to hang around for every person to finish up a particular hike. If you need help, please ask and you will receive. I am a Group Organizer, not a commercialized paid Group Leader. I will organize and inform to my best abilities. This is for camaraderie and the sharing of some incredible hikes. If you have an expectation for a hiking group to be ran like some professional Commercial group where there are walkie talkies and people designated at different levels of the hike, then this is not the group for you. I do not charge for the hikes and I do this because I wish to share of my time with people who have a like mind and like interests. This is a group where we will be doing different kinds of hikes beyond the normal every day hikes. If you wish to challenge yourself and truly explore, then you found the right group. This is not a group where you stick us on your Meet Up resume as a member in hopes to build a persona for online dating. This is not a group centered around social gatherings. If you join this group you need to be in good shape (not marathon shape) and be able to make good rational decisions, and be able to know your own limitations. If you do not log in for 30 days and if you have never attended a hike or have not RSVP'd for a hike in the future, our Auto Removal system will remove you automatically. You are always free to re-join right away. If you attend a hike, your membership is guaranteed for 6 months from the last hike you attended without having to log in every 30 days. This is to deter people who really don't have the same goals as the Group does. Our group does what is claims with no alternative motives, although it is a good by-product to acquire friendships from these kind of groups. Please enjoy!
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Re: Four Peaks Ridgeline Traverse 8.44 Miles 6800' elevation

Post by Tough_Boots » Feb 21 2013 12:42 pm

ehhh... its still a bad idea :sl:
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Post by DarthStiller » Feb 21 2013 5:05 pm

If a fatality occurs on this and we've made jokes before it happens, does the strict HAZ policy regarding fatalities become retroactive?

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Re: Four Peaks Ridgeline Traverse 8.44 Miles 6800' elevation

Post by louie » Feb 21 2013 5:55 pm

Just to give you guys a heads up he's revamped his itinerary. His plan is to just snow hike to the saddle. This has been a good thread and have appreciated and enjoyed people's perspectives. We're part of a few different hiking clubs and per the above post they aren't clubs for beginners, but at the same time I've hiked with these guys and common sense always prevails. No one has a death wish.

I'm surprised Medal hasn't chimed in. I gotta think he's amused and surprised by the depth of this discussion.
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Post by BobP » Feb 22 2013 5:22 pm

No problem getting to mud spring th... I saw a sedan make it... Hope it was a rental :) I saw a few vehicles at lone pine and also saw one stuck pickup.
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Re: Four Peaks Ridgeline Traverse 8.44 Miles 6800' elevation

Post by rally_toad » Feb 23 2013 1:02 am

I for one clicked on the meetup group link and saw one of the first people on the list was an Ohio native who just moved to AZ recently. I just didn't want to see this posted here and then later read an AZcentral article about overdue hikers on Four Peaks. Use common sense people. We aren't trying to insult you, we are concerned about your safety. I do not care how "hard core" of a hiker someone is, complacency kills. Planning this hike and posting it as though its no big deal in February isn't cool. Read the original post... "first few miles are easy, then some non-technical rock climbing". This almost sounds like a description of the Pass Mountain Ridgeline, not the Four Peaks Motherlode. I'm sorry, but you have to be respectful of nature and the elements, you can't go into something like this with a "Meh its just Four Peaks" attitude.
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Re: Four Peaks Ridgeline Traverse 8.44 Miles 6800' elevation

Post by DarthStiller » Feb 23 2013 10:44 am

@rally_toad
It appears the hike has been amended appropriately due to recent weather conditions, so there's not a need to get too hyper about it. I do agree with you in general about some of your points, though. I clicked the link and saw the talk going on over there, so they seem to be pretty up to snuff. It appears the link was placed here to attract more people with the assumption that those that cruise these forums are similarly in the know. I think the lack of recent response here may be creating some minor communication issues.

Good luck and have fun. Crampons and ice picks are probably recommended even for an attempt at brown's peak.

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