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Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 08 2013 5:53 am
by JuanJaimeiii
Well if you haven't seen the Orange Arrows Leading up to the Flatiron in person you may certainly have seen photos of them. They are obnoxious and unnecessary. I decided to test out the removal of the arrows with a product I have used in the past called "Citristrip". It is a bio degradable non toxic stripper and seemed to work quite well. JohnLP came along on the initial test and we found that this product in a spray can, along with a good scrub brush and some shop towels to mop up the mess did the trick. In roughly an hour and a half of work we were able to eliminate 3 of them. That leaves 17 to be removed.

I would like to put together a small task force to finish the job.

The plan if weather permits is for next Saturday the 14th of December starting at 8am. We will need an additional 6 cans as we found one can works for about 3 arrows.

What to bring? Bring a pair of rubber gloves like you would use to wash dishes by hand. Some old shop towels to mop up the paint and a good scrub brush. Lastly bring a plastic bag to haul out the mess. As for the Citristrip I will purchase all the product. If you want to chip in on that I ask that you donate to HAZ instead. The Citristrip is 9.00 a bottle and without HAZ I wouldn't be able to post this event.

Let's meet at the Quick Trip on the corner of Idaho and Old West Highway. From the 60 it is straight north on Idaho a few miles at the south-east corner of Idaho and Old West Highway. Meet at 8am sharp. We will leave there by 8:20 and go get this party (oops meant project) started.

Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 08 2013 8:41 am
by CannondaleKid
No firm plans yet but Tracey has that weekend off and we might go camping. If not, one or both of us may join in the party... er clean-up project.

Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 08 2013 8:50 am
by JuanJaimeiii
Okay sounds good Mark.

Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 08 2013 10:46 am
by azbackpackr
This is great! Bumping it up for ya! (I'm in Calif, can't be there, sorry!)

Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 08 2013 11:47 am
by SpiderLegs
Once you're done with that come on over to the west side and get rid of the blue dots in the White Tanks.

Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 08 2013 11:56 am
by Hippy
I'll be at Phantom Ranch the 14th but if theres any nasty orange arrows left after the 16th I'm willing to pair up with others and tackle it, good luck and :thanx: good karma!!

Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 08 2013 12:25 pm
by DBmooner
you should remove the blue and white dots too. I am sick of people asking me if they are going the right way maybe if there weren't dots it would keep some of the extra newbie people away .

Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 08 2013 1:15 pm
by RowdyandMe
@JuanJaimeiii
I will be there. I hate seeing that crap on my mountain.

Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 08 2013 1:59 pm
by Sredfield
I'll have to take the $$ contribution option, AZT stuff in Oracle that day.

Re Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 08 2013 2:28 pm
by azbackpackr
Sredfield wrote:I'll have to take the $$ contribution option, AZT stuff in Oracle that day.
Done! :)

Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 08 2013 5:13 pm
by trekkin_gecko
wish i could join in but i'll be working
made a donation for a can of citristrip
great stuff, jj

Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 09 2013 1:48 pm
by RickVincent
A response I received today from e-mail to Forest Service...

Hi Rick,
Thank you for giving us a heads up on the graffiti along the Siphon Draw trail, and your willingness to help us to remove the graffiti. Currently there is a group of people associated with Arizona Trail Association that are going up the trail every Saturday to work on removing the graffiti. If you would like to assist the group in their efforts please contact Mark Suban at 480-610-3300. Mark will assist you in getting a volunteer agreement to authorize you to help. The signing that you suggested is something that the Forest Service would need to do because the location and content of such signs would have to be in accordance with our wilderness regulations and done in conjunction with the Lost Dutchman State Park as most of the hikers on that trail originate from the park. Thank you for your interest in helping out and I hope you will take advantage of the opportunity to volunteer on the trail.

Jason Scow
Rec and Lands Staff
Mesa Ranger District
(480) 610-3330

Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 09 2013 2:24 pm
by BobP
Rick Vincent wrote: Mark will assist you in getting a volunteer agreement to authorize you to help.
:roll: ....JJ3 do we have to sign waiver forms in case we spray the stuff in our eyes :roll:

Also, it seems like we wouldn't be going thru proper channels...

Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 09 2013 2:46 pm
by JuanJaimeiii
Okay I have spoken with Mark Suban and I will take care of a blanket volunteer agreement for this project. Bob it's all fun and games until you squirt citristrip into your eyes. I can't be held responsible for that. :o As for proper channels I prefer Fox News, Discovery, and the History Channel. :D

The Forest Service is Very appreciative of our efforts and Mark will be meeting us at Quick Trip Saturday morning as well. Plans remain the same!

Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 09 2013 6:52 pm
by Bradshaws
I love what your doing :thanx: and I plan on being there. I've started pulling together supplies. I can't commit 100% because my work is a madhouse right now but I'm going to do my best. I've got a week to work on story on why I can work on Saturday :lol:

Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 09 2013 6:55 pm
by trekkin_gecko
@Bradshaws
migraine
good for sudden, short term absences
transportation issues work, too

Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 09 2013 7:07 pm
by rwstorm
@trekkin gecko
Are you speaking from experience Kelly? ;)
(In the words of U. Utah Phillips, "You gotta mess with people!" :lol: )

Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 09 2013 8:47 pm
by mazatzal
@JuanJaimeiii I'm in. Thanks for fixing my hallucination :)

Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 09 2013 9:59 pm
by JuanJaimeiii
The group is getting bigger. Many hands make light work! We may even have time to hike to the top while we are at it! :y:

Re Flatiron Orange Paint Removal Project

Posted: Dec 10 2013 6:39 am
by AZLumberjack
I talked with Mark Suban on Sunday and told him what was going to happen. Mark is very appreciative of our efforts as they are undermanned and it would be hard to work this into a scheduled event. Hope to meet you and lots of HAZ'ers on Saturday :y: