Just don't plan on the descent being easy by any measn... Carney to the Saddle is a real butt-kicker in BOTH directions.rayhuston wrote:The good news is the warm part of the hike will be mostly downhill.
An early start is the key... just hope the early morning humidity isn't too high.skillpore wrote:Your gunna fry out there. I wouldn't do this hike until the high temp gets to the 80s.
I think its the steepest non-technical-non scrambling descent I have ever been on... SCREEEEEEECannondaleKid wrote:Just don't plan on the descent being easy by any measn... Carney to the Saddle is a real butt-kicker in BOTH directions.rayhuston wrote:The good news is the warm part of the hike will be mostly downhill.
I just returned from a Carney to West Boulder Saddle round-trip and I'd rate the descent as at least twice the challenge as the ascent. Sure, you'll burn more calories on the ascent for sure, but there's more chance for mishaps on the steep descent, especially when hot and dog-tired at the end of a long hike. Slow and extra-careful with each step and you'll do fine.
Oh its fine and honestly I was still 'new' to PHX when I did it. Probably wouldn't even bat an eye at it now.Hippy wrote:Come on, its not that bad... Have you hiked Old Hance??
Crawling up or down from the saddle just requires lungs and light. He'll have a blast.
Great replacement option!oceanzhang wrote:Yeah, I'm thinking of switching to Brown's Peak this Sunday and hitting 5057 next Sunday when it's a couple degrees cooler. I've never hiked Brown's either.
While some 10 years ago I did the ridgeline from Carney and began a full two hours before sunrise I sure wouldn't want to do that again.oceanzhang wrote:When the weather cools off to high of 80s it's too dark in the mornings (my other motivation for starting at 5am is to be able to still spend most of the day with my family), so 5057 is only available to me in Summer
Yes, many! I'm sure many others here on HAZ will share a variety of ideas and favorites, and as a HAZ peak bagger of some note, should one have the desire I can provide more than enough to keep you busy for a long time.oceanzhang wrote:Are there any other hikes in AZ that offer a lot of scrambling without having to use ropes to get to the summit?