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So you can't park your vehicle more than 10 feet off a forest road, AND you can only do so if those 10 feet are devoid of vegetation! That is very restrictive!9. Possessing or using a motor vehicle off National Forest System roads (except when parking in an area devoid of vegetation within 10 feet of the roadway or when parking overnight in Forest Service developed campgrounds and trailheads).
This means that all vehicles must remain on an open Forest Road when driving. All parked vehicles must remain within 10 feet of a Forest Road AND only in an area that is devoid of vegetation. This is to keep catalytic converters and other sources of heat underneath the vehicle from igniting vegetation.
Visitors may NOT drive over areas of vegetation to place their trailers or unload their tents and camping supplies, and may NOT park directly on a designated Forest Road. Thus, finding a suitable location for pulling a trailer off the road will be challenging, particularly with the number of visitors expected during summer months. As a result, some campers may not find a spot to camp on the Coconino National Forest at this time and during the busy weekends.
Too lazy and busy to look it up, but I can recall fires being started by cars driving off road or even just parking off a road. Hot stuff under car + dry grass = fire. I'm not sure why you seem to find this problematic...chumley wrote:So you can't park your vehicle more than 10 feet off a forest road, AND you can only do so if those 10 feet are devoid of vegetation! That is very restrictive!
I wonder what the rationale for this decision is. I can't say I've read any accounts of modern vehicles or trailers starting fires while driving or parking for the purpose of camping near a forest road in Arizona. I also wonder if other forests in Arizona will follow the same rules for their Stage II restrictions or if it's just a Coconino NF (and probably Kaibab as those two forests typically work together).
Perhaps I misinterpreted the "very restrictive" language, which seemed like a complaint. My mistake. Good to highlight this part of the Stage II regs regardless.chumley wrote:I'm not sure where I indicated that I found it to be problematic.flagscott wrote: I'm not sure why you seem to find this problematic
Possessing or using a motor vehicle off National Forest System roads. Motorized vehicles must abide by Travel Management Regulations and travel only on open Forest Roads. In “camping corridors” where vehicles are allowed to leave a Forest Road for up to 300 feet (as well as outside camping corridors where vehicles can leave the Forest Road for up to 30 feet) vehicles can still do so, but only as long as the path they drive over is devoid of vegetation. The intent of this restriction is to keep sources of heat underneath a vehicle from contacting any vegetation that could start a wildfire. In short, don’t drive or park over any vegetation at any time.
Images of the '78 Arcosanti car-b-que are burned deep in our collective memories. ;)chumley wrote: I can't say I've read any accounts of modern vehicles or trailers starting fires while driving or parking for the purpose of camping near a forest road in Arizona.