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True. Other than saguaros, in the desert I think that plants will regrow much faster than what many people think....and some plant species need fire for their seeds to germinateLindaAnn wrote: ↑Jun 18 2019 8:36 am@DixieFlyer Seems like everything bounced back quickly, even though the first few years afterward were very dry. Obviously the saguaros will take longer...Interesting that the human restoration efforts were mostly unsuccessful. Best to just let nature do its thing.
I’m curious as to which native Sonoran desert plants need fire for seeds to germinate. Or did this discussion suddenly turn to a totally different type of ecosystem?DixieFlyer wrote:some plant species need fire for their seeds to germinate
One thing nobody has commented on are the springs. Elsewhere in AZ, fires have dried up springs for extremely long periods, at least on a human time scale.Tough_Boots wrote: ↑Jun 18 2019 11:06 amIt also depends on how the fire effects the water table, aquifer, the ability for wildlife to return and thrive, etc. The long term effects are likely somewhere on the scale between "fine" and "catastrophic" in a zone many not driven to speculation refer to as "too soon to tell".
I could never get any sleep near the orchard because of the deer being so curious about my tent and the apples attracting so many deer.LosDosSloFolks wrote:I was there only once to see the apple trees,
I wish I was wrong but I don't think there is any active firefighting going on in the wilderness. No fire crews and I don't believe any fire retardant has been dropped in the wilderness. I believe most of the retardant has been dropped on the southwest flank south of Fraser Canyon to keep it from running toward the southwest. The Rogers Canyon cliff dwellings and Circlestone were listed as assets to be protected but I'm not convinced anything has been done even to protect these areas. It's just too remote and even though they are not saying it they appear to be managing this fire in line with the guidelines of the Wilderness Act.chumley wrote:The progression map showing yesterday's growth was published an hour ago and shows that the fire burned the top of Malapais Mountain yesterday and entered the Reavis Valley, burning Mound Mountain and across the fireline trail. It would be nice if they are able to keep it from dropping down into Campaign Creek and spreading farther east...