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Perhaps, but its not clear that this was necessarily a crown fire throughout the entire eastern range. And as you move west, I'd expect that the intensity would be reduced with many of the cottonwoods surviving. I'm honestly not sure if any live saguaros would burn, though some of the dead litter and cacti skeletons certainly would have provided fuel.elleryjk wrote: ↑Jun 25 2019 11:16 amI mean I just came back from a week in the Gila wilderness in NM and basically spent the entire time climbing over long dead ponderosas from the 2012 Whitewater Baldy Fire. The trails in the superstitions will still be there. You might just be walking over a lot of charred saguaros (pronounced sag-you-whar-oh's if you actually live in PA and come to southern AZ to make youtube videos to add a little variety to get views and also enjoy setting up your hammock up on the ground). But I digress.
I hope the toilet paper doesn't come back as quickly
I felt that I should follow up. Some unofficial information from Facebook suggests that several areas near Roger's Trough were reignited aerially to ensure several un-burned pockets would actually burn. Kind of like the campfire effect where you have to monitor a fire until you are sure nothing nearby will catch. Sometimes it is easier to burn the stuff nearby than it is to wait to see if what is burning won't spread.nonot wrote:It also appears they reburned the area around Roger's Trough for some reason? Perhaps as part of mop up operations to get rid of the stumps, but someone with inside knowledge is probably needed to know for sure.
The problem is I can't think of one wildfire in central Arizona in the past 25 years that has been beneficial to the pine forests. I guess we will see in this case. Obviously life goes on, but every fire has robbed us of more and more of the variety in the landscapes in central AZ and each time the quality of hiking takes another hit.nonot wrote:Will be interesting come this winter when people start to venture back and see how bad the damage is. The preliminary report posted in this thread suggests the reavis ranch area only was low intensity and most of the trees in that immediate vicinity will be fine. Low intensity fire is actually healthy for pine forests. I fear however, that some of the areas around pine creek/reavis gap would be more like crown fire status since that area was severely overgrown. Also, the catclaw will come back very hard
As nonot stated above, you can't think of them because the beneficial ones don't make the news. Only the destructive ones do.hondah35 wrote:I can't think of one wildfire in central Arizona in the past 25 years that has been beneficial to the pine forests
chumley wrote:A quick search found a few recent fires that were managed to benefit a pine forest:
Deer fire (Mogollon Rim)
Bristow Fire (adjacent to Munds Park)
Seep Fire (adjacent to Kendrick Park)
Platypus Fire (north of Sedona)
Tank Fire (Happy Jack area)
Sycamore Fire (northwest of Sedona)
Snake Ridge Fire (Mogollon Rim)
Horse Tank (north of Payson)