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Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by chumley » Jun 08 2019 8:27 pm

Burning near Woodbury Trailhead. It has grown to 500 acres. I'll post official links as soon as they're up.

The smoke plume does not look good.

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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by chumley » Sep 06 2019 12:16 pm

Flood prone areas are still closed, including Fish Creek.

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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by chumley » Sep 23 2019 5:31 am

Flash flood warning in the Superstitions. Today and tomorrow might cause more damage there than the entire month it was on fire.
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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by CannondaleKid » Sep 23 2019 6:21 am

@chumley
Radar for last few hours looked like a ton of rain hit the Supes. Just noted a weather station in AJ at the foot of the Supes already at 2.54" for this morning.
In east Mesa we're already at 1.25" since 3 am.
Nice for us... not so much for flash flooding & erosion in the Supes.
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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by wildwesthikes » Sep 23 2019 7:22 am

I was at LaBarge Spring a couple days ago. There is a bit of undercutting going on along the wall of the high bank immediately below the spring, indicating that floods have swept the area recently. I could distinctly smell what can only be described as "wet ash" when walking across the drainage, accompanied by fine grey sooty mud.

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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by friendofThundergod » Sep 23 2019 8:08 am

@chumley
might cause more damage
Does it even matter at this point? :?

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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by chumley » Sep 23 2019 8:15 am

@friendofThundergod Yes. A lot.

How the area recovers... if it starts to come back in a few years... rather than a few decades... will depend on what happens to the soil/ash.
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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by chumley » Sep 23 2019 8:34 am

CannondaleKid wrote:looked like a ton of rain hit the Supes
Yes, according to the HAZ map, it's rained somewhere between orange much and red much, surrounded by a lot of yellow much. :-k
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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by chumley » Sep 23 2019 8:39 am

4.21" at the North Reavis TH
3.39" at Tortilla TH

Fish Creek -- otherwise untouched by fire -- might be destroyed by runoff from that kind of rainfall.
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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by Sredfield » Sep 23 2019 4:22 pm

Drove home from Pine this morning, water running in Sycamore Creek and Mesquite Wash, and it looked pretty dark over the Supes.

Also, saw two rollovers, one being cleaned up the other looked rather fresh. We AZ folk don't drive well in the rain.
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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by Sredfield » Sep 23 2019 4:23 pm

@chumley
That will leave a scar! Over 4 inches would rearrange things regardless of the fire.
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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by nonot » Sep 23 2019 7:14 pm

@chumley
Geology happens.
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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by Sredfield » Sep 23 2019 8:09 pm

@nonot
. . . and geologic time includes now.
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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by friendofThundergod » Nov 15 2019 7:50 am

My friend climbed Weavers yesterday and snapped this pic of a ton of slurry still lingering on Malapais.
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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by CannondaleKid » Nov 15 2019 8:42 am

@friendofThundergod
Over the years I've hiked through areas showing plenty of evidence of slurry almost a decade after the drop. So, depending on conditions it may linger for quite some time.
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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by AZLumberjack » Nov 16 2019 6:01 am

It looks slightly unsightly but obviously it worked. Anybody know what happens to wildlife that eats plants soaked with the retardant?
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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by Tough_Boots » Nov 16 2019 9:10 am

@AZLumberjack
I would guess an animal needs to be pretty desperate to eat it-- it's full of ammonia. Though I know it decimates fish populations so I would drink any water in the Supes for a while. Maybe springs are fine-- but I'd stay away from filtering runoff.
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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by outdoor_lover » Nov 16 2019 11:55 am

Hopefully the big Storm this next week will maybe help rinse some of it away.
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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by chumley » Nov 16 2019 1:13 pm

If the 5" storm that washed out SR 88 didn't rinse it away, I'm not expecting it to disappear next week.
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Re: Woodbury Fire - Superstition Wilderness

Post by Jim_H » Nov 16 2019 1:27 pm

I was observing red stain from the stuff used in the 2006 Brinns Fire on Wilson Mountain outside of Sedona in 2010 or 11, and while I haven't been back since I moved out to Kayenta, there's a chance it still remains on rocks and tree bark.
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