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Monument Fire

Post by RedRoxx44 » Jun 15 2011 7:34 pm

Here we go with the Huachucas-- per msnbc online
"LUNA, N.M. — More areas near a southern Arizona city were evacuated on Wednesday after a fire there torched 40 homes overnight and moved towards heavier populated neighborhoods. The blaze heading towards Sierra Vista was much smaller than Arizona's massive Wallow fire but has already surpassed it in terms of property destroyed. "

I imagine the base will be aggressive in assisting in this matter. Sadly several cavers I know are all excited about ridgewalking since the fire will burn off the foliage. :(

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Re: Monument Fire

Post by Nighthiker » Jun 16 2011 5:33 am

We are getting ready to replace crews that were deployed to the Wallow Fire, next group may get sent down to Southern Arizona instead.
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Re: Monument Fire

Post by JimmyLyding » Jun 16 2011 11:41 pm

This fire looks horrific. I shudder to think how much sky island forest we may lose this year

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Post by Davis2001r6 » Jun 17 2011 12:30 am

Is it sad that the 1st thing that came to my mind is maybe the fire will burn up all the trash the illegals have left?

I climbed Miller Peak a few years back, nice area, sad to see all these places burning up.

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Post by azbackpackr » Jun 17 2011 5:23 am

An awful lot of this stuff has needed a burn for a long time. Miller Peak burned over about 20 years ago. Mt. Lemmon is better since the burn, I think. But it does take time for the areas to have some significant regrowth.

Latest news from the front in Springerville is that a lot of the fire is on the ground, a lot of trees have been left alive. I can't wait to go look. Already sneaked a peek at South Fork. White Mtns. has a significant over-population of elk, so aspen re-growth may be a problem, since they will eat all of it.
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Re: Monument Fire

Post by sbkelley » Jun 17 2011 11:32 am

When I hiked Miller Peak last summer, we started by going over Carr Peak first from the Ramsey Canyon road. That whole area burned in 1977 and 1991, according to the USFS, and it was noticeable. Sunny and warm even at that altitude. The aspen groves higher up on Carr Peak were nice, though, and showed a hint of what this current burn area will look like in a few years (at least around Miller Peak itself). We didn't hit the dense conifer forest until the Crest Trail. I remember how dense the fuel load seemed and thinking how a little thinning would be wise...

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Re: Monument Fire

Post by azbackpackr » Jun 17 2011 11:38 am

If it is as windy today down there as it is up here in Flag, that is going to really pump it up a lot. The forecast for the Wallow Fire this morning is also pretty dire.
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Re: Monument Fire

Post by cathymocha » Jun 20 2011 2:09 pm

Monument fire seems to be heading back eastward of highway 92. Since it seems to have gone up from Ash Canyon and atop Millers Peak and down, I wonder if it has burned up some of the trash up on the trails the drug runners and illegals use to access the States. Just a thought. :?

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Post by joebartels » Jun 20 2011 2:22 pm

Data just came in, kiss Carr goodbye :(
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Post by cindyl » Jun 20 2011 2:24 pm

joe bartels wrote:kiss Carr goodbye :(
:o :lone: :cry:
There are just two switchbacks left. And another half-mile to the destination...

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Re: Monument Fire

Post by rwstorm » Jun 20 2011 2:36 pm

Don't think it has torched the campgrounds yet. If they can save those and some of the unique homes and the Mesquite Tree Restaurant below, I'll be a tad happier. Miller on the other hand must be a total disaster area (wonder how the Beatty Place fared?). Ash Canyon is now fully living up to its name (though pretty sure it was named for a tree). If the fire gets down into Ramsey Canyon it will be truly sad. :x :gun:
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Re: Monument Fire

Post by sbkelley » Jun 20 2011 2:52 pm

Such a bummer...that area was just starting to recover. It will again, but that will take time. Hoping for the best for everyone's homes and businesses

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Re: Monument Fire

Post by cathymocha » Jun 20 2011 4:38 pm

joe bartels wrote:Data just came in, kiss Carr goodbye :(
http://hikearizona.com/map.php?QX=851
I used to live near this area for about 15 years...it was so beautiful. :cry:

Good news, some of my friends who were evacuated have be cleared to return to their homes.

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Post by RedRoxx44 » Jun 20 2011 8:05 pm

If you zoom in on that map the fire in the flats covers some streets with quite a few homes on them. I find it strange that the media reports property destroyed but numbers "unknown"; Inciweb doesn't even mention structures destroyed. I am willing to bet it is substantial.
On a more personal note Brian has a close friend with a family ranch on the Blue---he says the southern edge of the Wallow fire is about a mile from them. Three main homes and countless corrals and outbuildings. Brian is thinking about heading that way to help out as he can. Say a prayer for everyone involved in these fires.

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Re: Monument Fire

Post by rwstorm » Jun 20 2011 8:25 pm

@RedRoxx44
guess that is one of the last areas it is still burning hot. Cross your fingers.
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Post by chumley » Jun 20 2011 9:08 pm

AZCentral reporting 14 additional homes lost and intense fire in Ramsey Canyon:
Authorities disclosed late Monday afternoon that the fire - whipped by heavy wind gusts and bone-dry conditions - burned 14 houses and four businesses Sunday. That brought to a total of roughly 60 homes, four businesses and 14 sheds and other out-buildings the fire has damaged or destroyed since it began June 12.

The greatest concentration is in Ramsey Canyon, where the fire has been burning most intensely.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/ ... z1Psd1CFRQ
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Post by rwstorm » Jun 20 2011 9:20 pm

chumley wrote:The greatest concentration is in Ramsey Canyon, where the fire has been burning most intensely.
This has to erroneous, since the fire maps show it hasn't reached there yet. Not only that but if the Folklore Center and Nature Conservancy properties were torched it would be big time news.
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Re: Monument Fire

Post by chumley » Jun 20 2011 9:43 pm

It must be near there because the report direct from Inciweb talks about it:
Structure protection will continue around the perimeter of the fire especially in Carr and Ramsey Canyon. Mop-up continues along the fire flanks of the fire and complicated indirect firefighting activities planned for the head of the fire. The Ramsey Canyon area is the most difficult piece of terrain many firefighters have ever seen.
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Re: Monument Fire

Post by joebartels » Jun 20 2011 9:54 pm

This is the hot spot map at noon http://hikearizona.com/map.php?QX=868
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Re: Monument Fire

Post by joebartels » Jun 20 2011 10:07 pm

Hike Arizona it ROCKS!

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