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Some people think their four wheel drive makes them invincible, or at least the ability to drive like they would on dry pavement....of course I've seen plenty of people in their lifted two-wheel drive pickups with huge tires do the same thing. Part of it is a macho "my vehicle is better than yours" type of think that doesn't translate very well in adverse driving conditions. That said, I would still rather have a 4x4 or all wheel drive car in the snow or ice, it's still extra traction, and is especially helpful if you do manage to get stuck, you just can't use it as an excuse to drive like an idiot.Outdoor Lover wrote:The 4x4s were involuntary stars of the show...
I like xc skiing, and would say it was plenty for that. However, I was just passing through. I am now at the beach in Oceanside. Well, actually, I'm one block from the beach. The quickest way from Eagar to Oceanside takes me past Forest Lakes.azhiker96 wrote:Is there much snow on the mogollon rim? I'm thinking about putting some more miles on my snowshoes on Jan 1st or 2nd.
I always smile when somebody mentions that place. It's also the name of my community, which isn't on the quickest way to anywhere.azbackpackr wrote:The quickest way from Eagar to Oceanside takes me past Forest Lakes.
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=4061&start=220#p43414Jim_H wrote:We're getting a lot of changing leaves and its going to increase in the next week.
The US observes solar seasons where spring and fall begin when the sun's most direct rays pass over the equator and winter and summer begin when the most direct rays are at their height on the respective tropics. NZ appears to follow meteorological seasons where 9/1, 12/1, 3/1, and 6/1 are the start of their spring, summer, fall, and winter, or the opposite for us.
Full details posted in the solstice thread: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6632#p77826WINTER HAS BEEN UNDERWAY AT LEAST SINCE 1 DECEMBER. THE OFFICIAL
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DEFINITION OF WINTER IS FROM THE 1ST DAY IN
DECEMBER TO THE LAST DAY IN FEBURARY. ON AVERAGE...THE COLDEST
3 MONTH PERIOD IN THE YEAR IN PHOENIX IS FROM ABOUT THE 23RD OF
NOVEMBER UNTIL ABOUT THE 23RD OF FEBRUARY. THUS...WINTER BEGINS
MUCH EARLIER THAN THE WINTER SOLSTICE.
Your source for Elden is playing with her bike on the beach in CA.Jim_H wrote:BTW: this may be an odd question coming from me, but does anyone have an idea of how Elden is with regard to snow? I would like to hike that Monday.