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central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Sep 28 2009 5:37 pm
by te_wa
this question is for anyone who has recently been in the area around Fish Creek Upper, Frog Tanks, Rogers Canyon or Angel Basin - can you confirm reliable/filterable water in any pools along any of these routes?

i am aware that there is a strong possibility of water in large pools in Upper Fish Creek between Frog Tanks and Goat Canyon, but im asking directly here, if anyone knows for sure.

Re: central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Sep 28 2009 5:42 pm
by big_load
I can't resist the temptation to quote what I was once told by the Mesa Ranger District: "There is no water ANYWHERE in the Superstitions."

Re: central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Sep 28 2009 5:51 pm
by SuperstitionGuy
big_load wrote:I can't resist the temptation to quote what I was once told by the Mesa Ranger District: "There is no water ANYWHERE in the Superstitions."
Ya, and there ain't any Mesa District Rangers in the Superstitions either. :lone:

Unless of course you find one of their volunteers who is doing their work for them... :-({|= ;)

Re: central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Sep 28 2009 6:18 pm
by big_load
You would have enjoyed the look on their faces when I tried to give them a spring report on my return. :D (Come on, guys. Can't you even pretend to listen? I can rest assured that noone's life was endangered by my information.)

Sorry for the hijack, Te-Wa.

Re: central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Sep 28 2009 6:53 pm
by te_wa
big_load wrote:Sorry for the hijack, Te-Wa
then what is your point, exactly? ](*,)

Re: central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Sep 28 2009 7:42 pm
by big_load
te-wa wrote:then what is your point, exactly?
I'm wary of water reports. HAZ folks are more reliable than anyone else, but I just can't help carrying that extra 3l.

Re: central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Sep 28 2009 9:32 pm
by rally_toad
Te-wa just pm rushthezeppelin... I bet he knows. Sorry I could not resist.

Re: central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Sep 30 2009 9:39 am
by dcrawfor
The only time you can COUNT on water in the Superstitions is when its raining and sometimes not even then. Carry extra and suck it up!

Re: central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Sep 30 2009 10:05 am
by te_wa
has anyone been there and knows for sure?

i could speculate on my own, for hours on end, but that wont help. :?

Re: central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Sep 30 2009 10:43 am
by BobP
te-wa wrote:has anyone been there and knows for sure?
wait I thought all you needed was this http://www.hikearizona.com/phoZOOM.php?ZIP=107904
rally_toad wrote:I bet he knows
Now if you needed info on Whitney. :)


I know I didn't help but it was fun :) trying.

Re: central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Oct 04 2009 9:08 pm
by joebartels
In response to te-wa:Unlikely of use to you but in the central most region... Upper Geronimo's Ravine had some pools up to 10-20 gallons. And the ravine up to Malapais had a whopping liter. It would have to be filtered for all but the hearty. Perhaps an indication of what you might find in that vicinity nonetheless...

Unfortunately the predicted rain never hit in the wilderness today.

Re: central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Oct 16 2009 4:45 pm
by te_wa
water found in the deep pool in fish creek, 1/2 mile downstream from the Frog Tanks intersection. It was a dirty green tint. Also there is a seep about 100 yds downstream from that, which holds enough water for about 3 gallons' filtering. It is found on the Northern side of the drainage. You can see water trickling down the rock face into a small natural basin. Then several yards upstream from the big pool i found a deep pocket about 50 gallons that was clear. This is likely the only water to be had down in these canyons after this poor rainy season.

Re: central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Oct 29 2013 10:20 pm
by sandyfortner
Does anyone have an idea of water available currently in the Supes. Was thinking of heading along Bluff Springs loop or somewhere in that area as an overnighter if there's any H2O. Other thoughts of where there may be water at this time? Thanks.

Re: central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Oct 30 2013 7:51 am
by Tough_Boots
Charlebois Spring and Labarge Spring always have water.

Re: central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Oct 30 2013 9:01 am
by friendofThundergod
@sandyfortner
La Barge, Charlebois for sure...Bluff Springs usually has a drip going.

Re: central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Oct 30 2013 9:25 am
by friendofThundergod
@te-wa
Ok I am always a little worried about giving water reports when its not an established Spring, however, near the confluence of Roger's Canyon and Rough Canyon along Frog Tanks trail there is significant water if you make a short detour up Rough Canyon. I don't imagine you would even have to go a half mile, but there was significant water two weekends ago, I pumped two liters on a day hike with an HAZ guy. If the initial pools look bad, just push up canyon a little more, you will even find some very deep pools. I noted to guy I was hiking with, that there was enough water, that one could comfortably camp along Frog Tanks near where Rough Canyon meets Roger's Canyon...there is also some nice sites in the area if you look around...

I know things change quickly, but I would be comfortable going out there and finding water to camp myself so I dont mind mentioning, it may be a little off your itinerary, but I would say that is your best bet along Frog Tanks, you will also be just a few miles from Angel Basin, Rogers Canyon is BONE DRY. I am sure you have it covered, but Rough Canyon is marked by a large rock spire with a natural arch in it, cant miss, right before where Frog Tanks makes its climb out of Rogers.

Below Link: Pumping water in Rough, two weekends ago...

http://hikearizona.com/photo=368114

Re: central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Oct 30 2013 11:03 am
by te_wa
yeah rough canyon was pretty cool, ive not hiked the entire length of it yet.. dropped in from about 1/2 mile west of the Reavis trail. we did find large pools in the canyon, one that kept a man alive for a couple days after a knee injury.

http://hikearizona.com/photo=78827 NOV. '08 and a little rainwater pool

Re: central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Oct 30 2013 11:11 am
by friendofThundergod
@te-wa
I actually got poison ivy in that canyon, so that leads me to believe it stays semi-wet in some of those spots for pretty long period.

Re: central SUPES water conditions?

Posted: Oct 30 2013 8:34 pm
by sandyfortner
@te-wa
Ya, I always shiver when I hear Rough Canyon after listening to that guy's tale of the broken knee cap and his stay until rescued. MUCH tougher than I!!