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Nope! All "packaging" most assuredly is NOT equal. And to say so simply blows right past silly into the absurd.te-wa wrote:laughable argument? laugh away.
just to clarify: deciding the best part of the package is used, so now the package is useless, and littering it, is equal. no matter what the packaging is.. either can or core. same thing.
i did not imply that the two materials are the same, or that they last the same time before degrading. simply that the package is considered useless after the usable stuffs is used.
I thought orange peels took longer too, but I never test them. I only tested 2 banana peels to see how long they would last and both lasted 4 weeks (around a month), but around 3 weeks, you could barely see it. I'm always skeptical of other people's studies, especially when it involve nature.trekkin gecko wrote:i always thought that it took banana and orange peels longer to decompose than apple cores
there is a banana peel in the back of my truck
i'm going to add an apple core and some orange peels and do my own research ;)
There's a lot of desert creatures that eat apples as their natural diet: deer, mice/rats, ants, millipedes (I think), black bears, skunks, javelinas*, foxes, coyotes*, ringtails*, coatis, horses, cattle, donkeys, and maybe squirrels and rabbits.SgtLumpy wrote:On the apple core arguments:
I'm guessing that apple cores are not a natural diet inclusion for any desert animal found in Arizona.
Leave no trace isn't about "harassing" others. It's the internal feeling one gets from deciding to leave their dog poop, beer can, apple core etc in the wilderness. "The only way to LNT is to not go at all" is hardly any kind of excuse for dog poop, beer cans or apple cores. That's why I (again) suggest, make the decision for yourself. Ask yourself "Is the wilderness area BETTER OFF if I leave or if I pack out my apple core?".Tough_Boots wrote:if someone ever harasses me for chucking an apple core out into the middle of nowhere-- they will quickly be asked about the gas they used to get there, the carbon emissions they have added to that very same environment, the fluids their car is leaking in the parking lot, the very trail they are hiking on, and the disruptive effect they are having over the wildlife in the area. LNT is a good thing to keep in mind and strive for but the only true way to "leave no trace" is to not be there. We are out there disrupting nature because it is our hobby-- accept it. ;)