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Look at my Article here on HAZ "How Hard was that Hike" http://hikearizona.com/article.php?ID=25&O=0gsp416dre wrote:. . . Maybe I have overlooked the HAZ rating criteria, if so, I apologize. Oh, and where may I find it?
So I bring my quest to the great table of hiking wisdom; Is there a standardized rating system out there anywhere for the vast network of hikers on the numerous forums and clubs? Has there ever been one? What are some criteria you guys use to rate and how does it "convert" from rating system to system? Granted, I will likely do as I have for the past few years and hike them anyway!!! (I have tried to search the forums on this, but for some reason I can't see older posts....)
Great advice. Trail conditions can change and aren't reflected in the statistics. A microburst on the Mount Baldy Loop knocked over at least 100 trees across the trail. A normally pleasant hike became an adventure. http://hikearizona.com/trip=14284chumley wrote:My best advice is not to look at just the rating (and the experience level of description's author who assigned it), but read the triplogs. I like to look at time data a lot of times to see how long it took for various people to do the hike. That gives me a better understanding of a trail's difficulty.
You nailed it Todd. For me at this point, I can look at the mileage and AEG of an on-trail hike and gauge how difficult it will be for me based on my current fitness and past experiences. The off-trail adventures that involve any perceivable combination of bush-whacking, route-finding, exposure, rock-climbing, ect. I think are really hard to judge based strictly on vital stats of mileage, AEG, and someone else's arbitrary rating.chumley wrote:My best advice is not to look at just the rating (and the experience level of description's author who assigned it), but read the triplogs. I like to look at time data a lot of times to see how long it took for various people to do the hike. That gives me a better understanding of a trail's difficulty.
I think Bob's personal assessment of ML > Ridgeline would be accurate for the vast majority of hikers. Where it could get fuzzy is if someone is a really experienced rock climber but has never done a hike longer than 6-7 miles. They might be super-comfortable with the exposure and route-finding on Four Peaks, but find that the longer hiking length of the Ridgeline pushes them to the edge.BobP wrote:Looking at the Supes ridgeline and the 4 Peaks motherlode.... the seeds rating are about the same. I think the ML is way more difficult but maybe thats just me.
But you conquered the Flatiron which has a 30 percent higher seed content and about the same mileage.hippiepunkpirate wrote: Brown's Peak because the exposure freaked me out
We use a simple head count method... does not have to be the same heads we started in with... just the same number...friendofThundergod wrote:@imike
Maybe leave a few out there next time, word will get out...group sizes should decrease exponentially...
It can be a 5+ in January with snow & ice. I think Joe has some photos of extreme weather on Flatiron. And it is more than a 5 in August depending on the temps. I like your comment, but I had to take issue with this. HAZ has info for the forecast for the hike but you have to learn how to get the most out of HAZ.Widowmaker wrote:. . .Well it is a 5 in August and maybe 3.5 in January. So people keep posting your triplogs as I read a few of them before every hike and of cousrse I also read the water reports as well.Thats my