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In the famous words of Yogi Berra: ""Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded." I can honestly say that I can go to the North Rim forever and never go to the developed area.Jim_H wrote:The developed area at the North Rim is small, and it was very crowded when I was there. Everything was packed, dining required days in advance reservations (unless you went to the cafeteria) and there was nearly no parking.
It's called Point Sublime for a reason. And Point Imperial. And Cape Royal, and Cape Solitude. And the best of all at sunset - Toroweap. Yes some are hard to get to. So when you go to the North Rim, you are going for an extended period. You develop an appreciation for different features of the Canyon. The North Rim erodes from the drainage off the Kaibab toward the Colorado. It is farther to the river but has much more between the Rim and the River. And much more water. The South Rim drains south away from the River. So it is much steeper and shorter to the River. And the features are much more striking - like Monument Canyon. But I'm happy that people haven't discovered the North Rim. Leaves more for me.Jim_H wrote: Views were a little less impressive to me. The South has lots of views, and view points. The north not so much. You are further from the river and tucked back at the lodge area. The best thing is seeing over the South Rim and out to the Volcanoes south of it, but you won't always get that view. It was a little cloudy and hazy, and very cold and windy when I was there in August, so the views were hazed out by the sun.
I think you are exactly right, but for the wrong reason. Many of those people are on a once in a lifetime trip to the Southern Utah National Parks - Bryce, Zion and Canyonlands - and throwing in the North Rim of the Canyon as their Grand Canyon trophy. Many are at the Lodge for a rest day on their trip and for the relaxation. And it is relaxing. Few of those people are there for the rugged pleasures the North Rim offers.Jim_H wrote: It was probably the weather, but the people there were not moving around like they do at the south, instead, most people sat at the lodge. A lot of people were sitting on the porch or in the fire place observation room and reading books. I guess the canyon bored them? My point is that the North Rim just didn't seem as conducive to walking around and see the canyon.
I would be impressed by "I Hiked Tuckup without puckering my sphincter" http://hikearizona.com/photo.php?ZIP=28686 http://hikearizona.com/photo.php?ZIP=28685Jim_H wrote:They need to make one that reads, "I hiked the length of the Tonto in July". That would impress me.
And Colin Fletcher is the other one. He had a helicopter lift, and didn't admit to it in the book.Al_HikesAZ wrote: Somebody might be able to help me. I know Colin walked the entire length of the Canyon and wrote that book.
In the words (sort of) of John Hance (at least I think it was John) - "There are three big liars here, I'm one and Bill Bass is the other two."
That hike is nuts. Mostly due to the packs, but it still looks crazy. Something about (what looks like) a loose gravely trail that is sloped towards the canyon.
One of my favorite Yogi-isms is "If you come to a fork in the road, take it."Al_HikesAZ wrote:Here's another great Yogi quote that sums it up: You got to be careful if you don't know where you're going, because you might not get there.
Al_HikesAZ wrote:Somebody might be able to help me. I know Colin walked the entire length of the Canyon and wrote that book. Who was that darn fool who set off from Page and hiked the entire North Rim the turned around and hiked the South Rim back? Can't remember. And didn't one guy commit suicide because someone beat him to it? Or am I starting to dream up history now that I'm an old fart.