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By visiting the link, you acknowledge receipt of the ticket. Arizona law requires that citations be served to you personally. If you visit the link, (or sign and return the citation) you are waiving your legal right in the charade. Less than 25% of state-issued photo citations are paid ...joe bartels wrote:They send you a link with the ticket.
Well at least you're innocent until proven guilty
I ignored mine for months until they sent somebody out to my house to serve the ticket on me in person.chumley wrote:Less than 25% of state-issued photo citations are paid ...
What is the source of this statistic? It must be interesting.chumley wrote:Less than 25% of state-issued photo citations are paid ...
According to the company, AZDPS, and the cities that run these cameras, they are inspected for quality assurance to determine the person they claim is breaking the law, actually appears to be breaking it. If that actually were true, this kind of think wouldn't happen. They either don't look at all, or they do such a poor job they might as well not have looked. The "assurance" is issued by an employee of the company, not a sheriff or any kind of police officer, so they might not even have much on the line if they repeatedly issue fraudulent tickets. It all just corruption.hikeaz wrote:Doesn’t anybody look at these things before they send them out?
There was an article in the New Times (which I can't find) a while back about someone in a similar situation.azbackpackr wrote:My son got a photo ticket he didn't even know about, since he tends to move around a lot. He isn't even sure he was driving the vehicle at the time, since he never saw the ticket, and had loaned out the vehicle a couple of times. He found out about it because he tried to renew his vehicle registration, and they told him his license had been revoked quite awhile previously. He had to pay a lot of money to get his license renewed. There are several driving jobs he was looking at applying for, which he now can't get for 5 years.
That is true across the board, now. Photo tickets are the least of our legal worries. Somewhere along the line when we weren't paying attention, the burden of proof switched from the accuser to the accused, and hearsay is now considered legal evidence in Arizona. We should be very afraid.chumley wrote: And if you still think you are "innocent until proven guilty", its time to wake up.
big_load wrote:It seemed like wall-to-wall cameras when I was out there. You'd think speeders were footing the whole state budget.
There are fixed cameras entering Star Valley both east- and west-bound on AZ-260 (the speed limit there is 45mph). These cameras are operated by the "city" of Star Valley, not by DPS.azbackpackr wrote:There is a camera on 260, outside of Payson, I think at Kohl's Ranch or near there. Watch for the signs!