FR 172 & 172A to Rogers Trough TH

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FR 172 & 172A to Rogers Trough TH

Post by SuperstitionGuy » Mar 05 2009 8:36 am

The USFS has a road grader and front end loader reworking FS road 172 and 172A. The road grader started from the beginning of 172 at Hewitt Station road and had made it approximately four miles when we passed by him on Tuesday afternoon. The front end loader had been filling in crosswise channels made by running water from the beginning of 172 to almost the top of 172A. When we passed him they were reworking the ruts just below the extremely sharp curve just before 172A tops out before the turn to Rogers Trough Trailhead. My experience with rework on this road is that they will be up there all week. Queen Creek is not flowing and relative easy to cross at this time. Someone traveling this road after this post please give us an update on the grading project and how far they have reworked the road.

General rules for driving this road is as follows. High clearence with rear wheel drive is recommended for 172. High clearence with four wheel drive is recommended for 172A. Front wheel drive vehicles can drive this road but it is not recommended that they tackle the steeper portions of either road as it is very easy to tear up the front tires on the embedded rocks. Vehicles without high clearence should drive only as far as the embedded rocks are low enough in reference to the road surface to allow safe travel. My experience when the road has been recently reworked is that drivers have a tendency to drive to fast and have accidents. There are numerous sharp curves and high spots where you cannot see oncoming traffic. This includes cars, trucks, ATV's and motorcycles. Head on crashes are a real threat under these conditions. Please drive at a safe speed and also be aware of cattle that may be on the road and unwilling to get out of your way.
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Re: FR 172 & 172A to Rogers Trough TH

Post by big_load » Feb 21 2020 11:34 am

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AZT Passage 19 Roger Trough

Post by prywreck » Mar 23 2020 9:04 am

Friday 3/20/20 attempted to drive to Rogers Trough to hike passage 19. The water flow crossing Hewitt Canyon rd just off 357 was pretty fast and knee deep so deiced not to attempt crossing :scared: . There were no tire tracks indicating recent vehicle crossing. I'm curious to know if anyone has made this crossing and made the drive up to Rogers Trough.
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Re: FR 172 & 172A to Rogers Trough TH

Post by SuperstitionGuy » Mar 23 2020 9:34 am

Yesterday 3/22/2020 there were pickup trucks with trailers parked on the north side. Lots of ATV's playing in the sand and water at the crossing. As I pulled up to consider driving across in my Honda CRV another SUV pulled in behind me so I backed out to see if he would consider it. He also backed away from the crossing but I had already decided to not cross and was departing. I believe that I could have crossed but had no real reason to do so. I believe it will be safe from this point on unless we get another rain storm. I was amazed at the number of cars, trucks and ATV's that were out there driving everywhere and you were always in a dust cloud.
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Re: FR 172 & 172A to Rogers Trough TH

Post by CannondaleKid » Mar 23 2020 10:02 am

At times when I've found the FR 172 crossing just a bit too deep, I've continued on Hewitt Road another .3 mile past FR 172 to FR 1904 and as often as not, due to a wider, flatter crossing I was able to cross there.
While you can use a shortcut back onto FR 172 at one mile along the wash (after passing through the cattle-guard gate), my "go to" route is to continue the full three miles along FR 1904 in the wash until it meets FR 172 again.
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Re: FR 172 & 172A to Rogers Trough TH

Post by markthurman53 » Mar 23 2020 10:43 am

Has anyone gone to rogers Trough via what I believe is NF 650 near Superior and up over Montana Mountain then to Rogers Trough. When I was on the Arizona Trail I walked a bit of this and looked like a good road.

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Re: FR 172 & 172A to Rogers Trough TH

Post by CannondaleKid » Mar 23 2020 11:18 am

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In general, FR 172 is regularly maintained whereas FR 650 is not maintained or very rarely.
While parts of it may be in good shape there are portions which can be in pretty rough shape at times, barring many less capable vehicles.
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Re: FR 172 & 172A to Rogers Trough TH

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Re: FR 172 & 172A to Rogers Trough TH

Post by 00blackout » Mar 23 2020 8:22 pm

@markthurman53
It's been probably two months since I've been on it but 650 was not that bad at all. It is steep especially the initial climb but other then that it was fine. Only thing to that is we have had a good amount of rain since then so that would definitely impact it. Really the only road in the Superstitions that I will never drive on again is 342, that road is a complete shit show.

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Re: FR 172 & 172A to Rogers Trough TH

Post by markthurman53 » Mar 23 2020 8:53 pm

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Thanks, May drive up and check it out some week.

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Re: FR 172 & 172A to Rogers Trough TH

Post by CannondaleKid » Mar 24 2020 5:49 am

00blackout wrote:342, that road is a complete shit show.
I don't have the Jeep any more so haven't driven it in six years, but for all the times I drove it before that I would agree completely... washouts could be scary.
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