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Exactly. And some of us can't have human children...Jeff MacE wrote:Only a person who has no human children of his or her own could ever feel that way about a pooch!!
I don't know... my mother has two children (one of whom is quite engaging and fun and spends much time with her, the other of which is me), but I know that she would agree 100% with the stance that animals have rights and values as family members. Without even being joking, I would never want to put her in the position of choosing between her human children and her canine children. Although I know blood ties would win out, I think that the sacrifice would go beyond devastation for her. And it has always been so - it's not just empty nest syndrome. We were raised with brothers and sisters who happened to be four legged and furry - and I have continued in my adult life to value my pets as family. Some people think that this is an inappropriate way to view/treat companion animals - okay. But I won't tell you what's right for your family's happiness, if you won't tell me what's right for mine. I think this country would be a heck of a lot better off if we used a similar approach on other (more controversial) subjects as well.Jeff MacE wrote:Only a person who has no human children of his or her own could ever feel that way about a pooch!!
He and his wife need some serious life coaching...hippiepunkpirate wrote:Well, here's something you probably won't ever see: Dog the Bounty Hunter walking out on the trail, on a leash or not.
Here is a scenario that happened once while I was hiking by myself(without dog). Group one...two unleashed dogs, nice polite no problems..Group two... one unleashed dog no problem. Problem happened when group two met up with group one...all three dogs took off. Group one dogs were recovered, I was able to get one(they ran towards me about 1/2 hr- 1 hr later) and then the other came back...never found out what happened to group twos dog. Group two owner was devastated and lashed out at the recoverd dogs. Not sure who was right or wrong or if they were responsible owners... and not sure if the dogs were well trained or not. I guess by themselves they were... but unforunately, not in a group setting.writelots wrote:A well trained dog in the hands of a responsible owner should be able to enjoy the trail in whatever manner they choose.
Hear hear (or here here, I've never been sure which). I think many more things in our lives should be allowed to "work themselves out".Jeff MacE wrote:In response to your points - I would like to propose the following: Let the system work itself out.
Interesting theory - I think you're really on to something there. I can't say I EVER assume that ANYONE I encounter is going to love my dog. Even if they don't act like it's a bother, I am effusively apologetic if by chance my dog is in their space or invading their quiet. I've even packed up camp and moved because my dog seemed to be disturbing the peace of a place.Jeff MacE wrote:One further point - it seems like there is an expectation that, since your an outdoor person, that automatically means you love dogs. Most outdoorsy people seem to have dogs, sportsmen included, and I think that breeds a mentality that assumes all others you will encounter will love your pet as much as you do.