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Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by cavaroc » Jan 06 2016 10:32 pm

Hi all,

I sadly had to leave the AZT last year early, but I'm giving it another go this spring. After experiencing a few of the stock tanks, I'm second-guessing my water purification methods. I had been using a SteriPEN in a 1-liter bottle that was filtered through some fine tea filters that fit conveniently over the bottle's mouth, but didn't always seem to catch everything. So I'm wondering, what's everyone's favorite method of water purification?
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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by te_wa » Sep 24 2016 8:22 am

if the sawyer squeeze or mini threads won't mate with your bladder or bottle, use these. http://sectionhiker.com/evernew-backpac ... d-bottles/
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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by Stavman » Oct 08 2016 11:47 am

I have been using a MSR Mini-works for Years... Have loved it.. easy.. simple.. But HEAVY at 18oz. Plus when I am getting Camp water... I have plenty of Time to wait for a GRavity system to fill my water recepticals instead of pumping them full for 6-12min.

So I started looking into options... and started on this thread, where I saw the Sawyer Mini discussed.. I just order a few things things today to start my gravity filter system

A verso Flow filter system, just like a sawyer mini at 1/2 the cost.. and Good reviews
A Platypus Carbon Filter... for those nice Pond scum puddles in AZ...lol
some Sawyer Fast fill and inline adapters
and some light weight Dry Bags

These systems look real easy... wide mouth to fill the bag fast.. and drip to fill my little 16oz water battles from fry's
Plus the weight should be around 6-8oz.. so a LOT of savings there.

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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by Stavman » Oct 09 2016 12:13 am

Think Ill be about 6.7oz... ish.. all landed this eve.. Now ta burn Holes... Cut Tubes.... and prep it

Hoping ta start my Backpacking season around Nov 11th... my Birthday

Hmmm where to go????

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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by LoLo » Oct 26 2017 8:44 pm

@rcorfman
I've read that people had a hard time with the Sawyers clogging. I'm pretty convinced after hours of reading about water treatment, that either the sawyer squeeze or mini is the best option in general, but can you tell me anything about how frequently they clog? The water sources on the AZT are notoriously capable of clogging any filter . . .

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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by LoLo » Oct 26 2017 8:46 pm

@toddak
Do you use a pre filter for the nastier water? How frequently do these clog when using the nastier water sources on the AZT?

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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by RowdyandMe » Oct 26 2017 9:16 pm

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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by Tough_Boots » Oct 26 2017 9:19 pm

Get the full size Sawyer-- not the mini. It's much faster. They both come with a plastic syringe so you can backflush it to clean it fast an easy. Simple.
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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by outdoor_lover » Oct 26 2017 11:16 pm

I never had any problems with either the Full Size Sawyer Squeeze or the Mini, but I have found that the Mini needs Backflushing more often, probably because the Filter is almost half the size... If you've got Debris in the Water, yes, I would most likely run it through something first although if the Water is just Silty, I haven't done that and it's been fine.... Just don't let your Sawyers Freeze or they are supposedly no good after that....
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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by ALMAL » Oct 27 2017 1:31 pm

@Tough_Boots
Get the full size and order the cleaning coupler for $3. It works way better than the syringe.
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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by Mick » Oct 28 2017 11:35 pm

When we did Royal Arch I took along a lifestraw which I used to check the salinity of water source before using the Sawyer Squeeze. If I suspect the water sources will be small puddles I tend to take my MSR filter as it is easy to pump.
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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by sandyfortner » Nov 02 2017 7:45 pm

I use a Sawyer regular size. Ya, it clogs and I just backwash it. Easy enough to do and I love the convenience of just letting it hang and filter while I do other stuff.
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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by Mudhole » Nov 09 2017 11:58 am

Using the Sawyer Squeeze with 2 smartwater-type bottles is my preferred setup. If you get the bottles that come with the flip-top cap, their nozzle fits up against the output nozzle of the Sawyer Squeeze and you can backflush with it without needing to buy the separate coupler. The Sawyer screws right onto these types of bottles so you can just fill and drink right out of the filter.
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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by wha » Nov 09 2017 4:49 pm

@Mudhole
I read a comment somewhere, attributed to a Sawyer representative, that that method is ok for the mini, but not enough pressure for the Squeeze. You end up just clearing a narrow channel through the filter. I use the coupler with a sawyer bottle and sit on it, blasts the junk right out. I use a spare smart bottle flip top to replace that hard-to-work push-pull cap on the squeeze. Smart water bottles are a great piece of gear for only a dollar.

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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by Mudhole » Jan 15 2018 9:20 am

@wha
Agreed. Most times I have the coupler with me which definitely works best. In a pinch, I'll just use the sport caps from a smartwater bottle and it seems to be effective (at least it was in the Sierra where backflushing isn't needed more than every few days). For this year's AZT hikes, I'm using the new Sawyer Micro Squeeze to save an ounce and to shorten my filter height off of the bottle when it's in my pack pocket. I'm also carrying a hand-made prefilter using a gutted old filter (so it has the water bottle threading) stuffed full of .5 micron polyester cloth to remove turbidity in gross water sources before passing it through the Sawyer. Testing has been great so far, and it's field serviceable.
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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by wha » Jan 15 2018 12:59 pm

The Sawyer Micro looks interesting except for the foam bottle part. Seems like it would be an unnecessary nuisance most of the time. Can you buy just the filter part? With threads top and bottom it gives all the same options as the original squeeze, including using the coupler for cleaning. Oh, and in my previous post I meant to say use a smart water bottle and sit on it, not a Sawyer bladder.

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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by Nighthiker » Jan 17 2018 8:10 pm

Strain thru cheese cloth and If enough fuel boil, or potable aqua or bleach.
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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by Mick » Jan 19 2018 12:46 am

My next filter maybe the MSR bulb trailshot.
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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by rkroeger » Jan 31 2018 8:56 am

I bought a Sawyer Mini and it won't mate with the Smartwater bottles!? Does anyone else have this problem? I have tried the 1L with the normal cap, and the 700ml with the pop cap. My Sawyer mini is the black one instead of the blue, but that shouldn't matter...

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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by hikeaz » Jan 31 2018 9:42 am

rkroeger wrote:
Jan 31 2018 8:56 am
I bought a Sawyer Mini and it won't mate with the Smartwater bottles!? Does anyone else have this problem? I have tried the 1L with the normal cap, and the 700ml with the pop cap. My Sawyer mini is the black one instead of the blue, but that shouldn't matter...
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I use a SW bottle with my Sawyer Mini. Worst case switch to a Pepsi/M.D. bottle. I believe the thread is 28mm?
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Re: Favorite Water Treatment?

Post by chumley » Jan 31 2018 9:55 am

hikeaz wrote:
Jan 31 2018 9:42 am
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Does this guy also have a video on how to turn what should be a 15-second demonstration into 7-minutes of nap-inducing boredom? :doh: :-k [-(
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