Passage 11 Santa Catalina Mountains

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Passage 11 Santa Catalina Mountains

Post by mando » Dec 11 2016 6:03 pm

I notice that there are two ways through passage 11, a western route that appears in the guide book and an eastern (newer?) route that appears on the ATA interactive map. What are the pros and cons of these two routes?

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Re: Passage 11 Santa Catalina Mountains

Post by rcorfman » Dec 11 2016 7:53 pm

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The route not in the guide book is the bike alternate to avoid the Wilderness area where bicycles are not allowed.
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Re: Passage 11 Santa Catalina Mountains

Post by mando » Dec 12 2016 1:59 pm

ahh, that makes sense. Thanks!

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Re: Passage 11 Santa Catalina Mountains

Post by garyc57 » Dec 13 2016 4:12 am

As I recall, the "official" route (the western route) as you call it, goes through the Wilderness of Rocks (WOR). Very challenging, if not impossible for horses. That's another reason for the re-route.

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Re: Passage 11 Santa Catalina Mountains

Post by Sredfield » Dec 13 2016 6:55 am

@garyc57
I'm not a horse person but I can't imagine a horse making it. I'd advise anyone considering it to walk it first, or be prepared to turn back.
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Re: Passage 11 Santa Catalina Mountains

Post by garyc57 » Dec 13 2016 4:49 pm

Sredfield wrote:@garyc57
I'm not a horse person...
Shawn, neither am I. Maybe a "horse person" could chime in with some advice...? What about rubber shoes? Would those help a horse in rocky areas?

(not to hijack the thread... :D )

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Re: Passage 11 Santa Catalina Mountains

Post by sandyfortner » Dec 13 2016 8:57 pm

The last few miles of the Pusch Wilderness Bypass - the Crystal Springs section - is a challenge! I do not think a horse could make it through there. Bikes would have a time as well. The other trails of the Bypass are great although Butterfly has a big elevation change. As a hiker, stick to the Wilderness. It's beautiful!
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Re: Passage 11 Santa Catalina Mountains

Post by BrettVet » Dec 14 2016 10:45 am

My mule “Rosie” and I have ridden the Wilderness of Rocks trail looping around to the Lemmon trail many times. Yes there is some rock climbing with some slick spots, but mules are the four wheel drive version of the equine world. They are half donkey and from that they get their intelligence and are sure footed. They have small feet and they watch and place them very carefully.

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Re: Passage 11 Santa Catalina Mountains

Post by Sredfield » Dec 14 2016 2:16 pm

@BrettVet
Wow. Have you gone down to Romero Pass? There is a huge chock stone across a steep, deep section of trail a little ways above the pass that seems impossible to me.
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Re: Passage 11 Santa Catalina Mountains

Post by BrettVet » Dec 16 2016 4:23 pm

No, just he Wilderness of Rocks, Lemmon Loop. Most of the time we can find a off trail route around or get off and rock hop with the mule. Downed trees are a pain which is why we always carry a saw.

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