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Tusayan development

Posted: Feb 13 2020 7:15 pm
by outdoor_lover
The Developer of the Tusayan Project, that was rejected, is at it again. https://scgrandcanyon.wordpress.com/202 ... n-project/

Re: Tusayan development

Posted: Feb 14 2020 10:04 pm
by ShatteredArm
@outdoor_lover
That's exactly it, it's an unmanaged area, and they're legally allowed to take as much water as they can manage to drill. For those of us who like hiking down on the Tonto Trail, this will have a significant effect on natural water availability.

Re: Tusayan development

Posted: Feb 14 2020 10:10 pm
by chumley
If you've read the proposal that the city council voted on and submitted to the forest service you'd know that the commercial development is not slated to use groundwater.
In the proposal, Stilo offered to agree to a "complete prohibition" on commercial groundwater use"
But that's not mentioned by the Sierra Club. As usual, biased blogs and social media posts don't present a full or accurate story. We would all be better off if we spend less time responding to their emotional pleas for our attention and more time researching facts before reaching conclusions that may or may not agree with our personal biases.

I'm personally quite interested in the effect of groundwater pumping on springs in the grand canyon. But so far everything I've read about this topic features a lot of speculation and little, if any, scientific study.

Re: Tusayan development

Posted: Feb 14 2020 11:05 pm
by outdoor_lover
@chumley
Yes, for "commercial use". But nothing said about the Residential Aspect of the Project. That Water will be provided by the Town of Tusayan, who is using Ground Water for it's supply. Apparently the Developer is talking about trucking the Water in from somewhere else for it's Commercial Purposes.

I realize that this is another "Blog", but I found it interesting. https://www.grandcanyontrust.org/propos ... evelopment

Re: Tusayan development

Posted: Feb 15 2020 8:22 am
by Jim
I thought the thread was about Tusayan, and not why extremists hate government in all its forms.

Thank you again, Joe , for the ignore feature.

Re: Tusayan development

Posted: Feb 15 2020 5:47 pm
by hikeaz
Tusayan has some smelly fish running the show... and the ones prying their way in (with the help of the current stinkers) may be smellier . If it was a level field the residents may have a chance, but...
Stilo fought for (after 4 defeats of the same proposition), and won the right to incorporate the community. Stilo also hired the Phoenix-based Policy Development Group, a political powerhouse in the Grand Canyon state, to help it burnish its corporate image. Why? You ask? Welll...
If the community was unincorporated any development projects need COUNTY approval which would likely not be easily forthcoming But.... if you could finance and hand-place town council members that were also serving (you) as the PLANNING COMMISSION... well.. you get it. Kinda like the old western movies with the bought-and-paid-for sheriff running the town for the local gangster.That backing of council candidates included free trips to Italy and cash "bonuses" for some council members.

Halvorson (who is also partners with the two newer-comers, Stilo included) companies, which include the 250-room Best Western Grand Canyon Squire Inn and an IMAX theater, employ hundreds of people here and suppies housing to them as well. Ex-Mayor Greg Bryan managed the inn,( Now, so does the current mayor)and two other town council members also worked for Halvorson companies. A fourth council member, Vice Mayor Cecily Maniaci, operates restaurants in buildings she leases from Halvorson. Um... when your family livelihood is directly attached to this pile of folks; what choice do you have?

On the 'other side' is the owner of most of the other half of the real estate in Tusayan, the Thurston's. Prominent rancher and businessman R.P. "Rob" Thurston, a Georgia native who got into Western rodeo competitions, bought into Tusayan during the 1930s, building the first gas station and steakhouse. He succeeded in getting a state highway routed through his land, built the first hotel (the Red Feather Lodge) and pushed for a new local airport in the 1960s. Ironic how THAT airport benefited Halvorson.

Ya think ANY of these folks give rat's a........ about the Canyon other than the folks it brings to their businesses?