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Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jun 28 2009 8:41 pm
by sarichter
well seeing that this one died previously because of scheduling between various parties... i thought it might make sense to try to plan this one early and knock it out in the fall. anyone still interested?
October and November seem like the months most likely to work.
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jul 14 2009 6:34 am
by sarichter
rlrjamy wrote:I've done Squaw 5 times in a row but thats just boring. Barnhardt y bar sounds good.
maybe we could summit too! would knock off another one for me!
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jul 14 2009 8:13 am
by Jeffshadows
dshillis wrote:yeah, maybe you're right. thanks joe. i'm thinking it was just the elevation figure for the end of the trail, which according to the HAZ hikebot post is about that elevation.
I'll have to go back and look. The elevation change from the TH in Catalina to the summit ended up somewhere in the neighborhood of +6360'...
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jul 14 2009 1:12 pm
by BobP
On second thought I may backpack it(death march) next weekend
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jul 14 2009 8:20 pm
by sarichter
if jamy does the backpacking, any of the rest of you guys and gals up for a warm up? kendrick or the barnhardt y basin deal?
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jul 15 2009 5:28 am
by BobP
I'll still do another warmup as it gets closer. Writelots trip just looks too good to pass up.
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jul 15 2009 8:02 am
by Jeffshadows
I'm still wrestling with an injury that probably won't be 100% by then. Maybe next time...
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jul 15 2009 8:41 am
by joebartels
By OCTOBER! That sucks, you and Nick have been out forever
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jul 15 2009 9:14 am
by dysfunction
Wow! I agree, that really does suck
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jul 15 2009 9:40 am
by writelots
Injuries are the worst - your brain is still into it, but your body doesn't want to cooperate. I hate it! You get better soon, you hear! ;)
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jul 15 2009 9:59 am
by joebartels
The real downer is when you're ready to go the conditioning is shot. Oddly enough it seems easier to rebound with age
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jul 15 2009 10:34 am
by dysfunction
I read somewhere that as you get into your 30's and 40's your endurance improves. Your fast twitch muscle capability diminishes... so I guess nature's gotta leave ya with something
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jul 15 2009 11:00 am
by Jeffshadows
The biggest problem is that it was an over-training/overuse injury which tends to recur almost instantly if the conditions are right within the first year or so after completely healing. I could go do something with a 3,000' gain and be fine to do another the next weekend but trying 6,000 in a day would probably cause it to happen again; at least until the underlying tears and strains heal.
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jul 15 2009 5:40 pm
by imike
Age does seem to grant substantial benefits relative to endurance... as I work through my 60th year I find I can out perform my earlier decades. relative to injury and recovery, and preparation for ever more elevation, I find that training on the flats, in deep sand, tends to give me the connective tissue conditioning necessary. I've rehabbed from a number of ankle, and knee injuries by running in the Rillito wash... go slow... put in ever longer miles...
good luck with that...
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jul 15 2009 5:58 pm
by sarichter
imike wrote:Age does seem to grant substantial benefits relative to endurance... as I work through my 60th year I find I can out perform my earlier decades. relative to injury and recovery, and preparation for ever more elevation, I find that training on the flats, in deep sand, tends to give me the connective tissue conditioning necessary. I've rehabbed from a number of ankle, and knee injuries by running in the Rillito wash... go slow... put in ever longer miles...
good luck with that...
heck, i'm only 28 and i feel like i've aged 100 years... the only thing i have going is no family history of joint and ligament issues... small people are good at something, right?
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jul 15 2009 6:06 pm
by imike
small helps big time... I've been training at 200 pounds just to increase my level of endurance for the hiking events this fall. I started cutting weight this week, and will continue to cut down to 170 pounds by September, probably my best "event weight"... Unfortunately, I'll not get to enjoy the loss benefits for months to come; I'll strap on a weight vest to fool my body into thinking I'm still at 200#.... ideally to preserve the leg mass gained from all these long elevation days in July and August.
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jul 15 2009 6:14 pm
by sarichter
imike wrote:small helps big time... I've been training at 200 pounds just to increase my level of endurance for the hiking events this fall. I started cutting weight this week, and will continue to cut down to 170 pounds by September, probably my best "event weight"... Unfortunately, I'll not get to enjoy the loss benefits for months to come; I'll strap on a weight vest to fool my body into thinking I'm still at 200#.... ideally to preserve the leg mass gained from all these long elevation days in July and August.
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jul 15 2009 7:08 pm
by Jeffshadows
imike wrote:Age does seem to grant substantial benefits relative to endurance... as I work through my 60th year I find I can out perform my earlier decades. relative to injury and recovery, and preparation for ever more elevation, I find that training on the flats, in deep sand, tends to give me the connective tissue conditioning necessary. I've rehabbed from a number of ankle, and knee injuries by running in the Rillito wash... go slow... put in ever longer miles...
good luck with that...
Thanks, I wish it were that simple. Fractures are an animal all their own...
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Jul 15 2009 11:30 pm
by JimmyLyding
Fractures can frquently be worse than breaks. I'm blessed with being tall, but cursed with having bad knees, small feet, and a history of plantar fasciatus on both sides of my family. Thank God for my roller stretcher. I'm going to get seriously out of shape over the next month because I'm taking 6 credit hours this month (ASU MBA). Hopefully hitting the StepMill 3X/week will keep me decent.
Stefan, you can keep up with Wally so give yourself SOME credit. Another idea for training would be a redux of the South Fork-Gold Ridge loop. It's relatively close to the Valley, 3000' or so of elevation gain, and at least a dozen miles.
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Aug 10 2009 11:18 am
by DarthStiller
Any date on this one yet? I'm thinking of doing Romero on Oct 4. I may post that once I ok it with my wife. If this ends up on that day, I can just sign up here.
Re: Catalina death march revival? October
Posted: Aug 10 2009 11:28 am
by BobP
As far as I know the date is still 10/10. Stefen?