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Ive been looking for a good campspot that sees little use near or at a trailhead.. think pine mountain.. looking to go oct 16th-18th so needs to be around 3-5k elevation, as id prefer not to be too cold.. as far as the trail is concerned, im looking for a fairly easy hike to take the gf on, 5-6 miles is good, with little ele gain. creek or some type of water feature is a plus as the mut will be joining us, and you know dogs and water... (at least most of em) anywhere within 2-3 hours of phx is fine by me... ive looked all over traildex but the descrips dont really talk about camping at the th. thanks for any help/info!

te-wa wrote:i would bet that Red has the gate closed, which is before the falls. although i could be wrong since his summer stint on the tower is likely over for the season(s)

you could also find many other areas in the Sierra Ancha like Reynolds Creek Trailhead and hike down to Hell's Hole.

fwiw, i would consider a trip to Peterson Ranch right off the Abbey's Way trail to score some apples.

*This won't affect the accessibility of the Falls campground. It will just prevent you from being able to drive up to the waterfall.

azpride wrote:If you drive a passenger car you probably won't want to go past the Falls campground as the road quickly degrades. My friend took his Dodge Neon way past, almost up to the Aztec Peak lookout once

i was just emphasizing a reply to this statement, that driving past the falls is not likely right now.
also most dont know there is a big ruin right in that area, and an apple orchard around the corner. lets keep it that way?

ya i think imma just study the topos in that area, and when i drive in ill scout it out and find a place.. thanks for the help everyone! hopefully one day ppl can pick my brain they way i do yours! it would only be fair right?