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I have no idea if this has ever been brought up, but I'm going to ask. How does everyone feel about using tabacco products on the trail? Smoking while hiking? Chewing while hiking? Just a curiosity. How many HAZ members smoke or chew? I quit smoking... for 4 months and then picked it back up again, for umfteenth time. And I have been known to chew sometimes.

I'm currently frying eggs, but no bacon. It would be a welcome addition to breakfast.

Nice...I'm sitting here in the gallery eating cold trailmix...

I say, "who cares?" I had a cigarette on top of Black Top Mesa today and it was awesome-- unhealthy but awesome. If someone had happened to come up to me out of nowhere and told me I was being inappropriate, I would have told them to save that nonsense for the city. Seriously, we're willing to hike long distances up steep, rocky, and painful terrain but we can't handle someone smoking a cigarette? Ridiculous.... and I rarely smoke during a hike and when I do-- the butts are always packed out and its never around people. People need to stop expecting the world to work the way they want it to-- especially in nature. I think that's what's inappropriate.

Almost 4 years ago I took an out of town buddy of mine on a hike to Reavis Ranch from the north (my 2nd triplog on HAZ, btw). When we got to the junction of the Reavis and Plow Saddle trails, there was a storm coming our way from the west that started to hit us. My buddy at this point said, "Man, I am not in the mood for this right now.", and pulled out a bowl and started tokin' up. I've never had any illegal drug, but I was confused that he would do this in the middle of a pretty strenous hike (we did it as an 18 mile day hike). I asked him if that tired you out like an alcohol buzz, and he said not at all. On our way out, we ran into a group of backpackers on their way in and the one guy had a half full whiskey flask tucked like a shoulder holster on his shoulder strap. Not sure how that wouldn't make a long hike even longer....

Smoke em if you got em! I have hiked many places outside the US where smoking seemed like it was the norm on the mountain. I have watched porters with very large loads blow past us like a train just puffing away and seen guides very high up doing the same.

Tabasco is great on most everything to spice it up - especially in the morning on the scrambled eggs or in the Bloody Mary.

Oh Tobacco?

Never mind.

Tough_Boots wrote:I say, "who cares?" I had a cigarette on top of Black Top Mesa today and it was awesome-- unhealthy but awesome. If someone had happened to come up to me out of nowhere and told me I was being inappropriate, I would have told them to save that nonsense for the city. Seriously, we're willing to hike long distances up steep, rocky, and painful terrain but we can't handle someone smoking a cigarette? Ridiculous.... and I rarely smoke during a hike and when I do-- the butts are always packed out and its never around people. People need to stop expecting the world to work the way they want it to-- especially in nature. I think that's what's inappropriate.

Well said!

NOooooooooI demand strict prohibition and social stigmatization of all things I deem morally questionable.

Jim_H wrote:NOooooooooI demand strict prohibition and social stigmatization of all things I deem morally questionable.

snakemarks wrote:Tough_Boots wrote:
I say, "who cares?" I had a cigarette on top of Black Top Mesa today and it was awesome-- unhealthy but awesome. If someone had happened to come up to me out of nowhere and told me I was being inappropriate, I would have told them to save that nonsense for the city. Seriously, we're willing to hike long distances up steep, rocky, and painful terrain but we can't handle someone smoking a cigarette? Ridiculous.... and I rarely smoke during a hike and when I do-- the butts are always packed out and its never around people. People need to stop expecting the world to work the way they want it to-- especially in nature. I think that's what's inappropriate.


Well said!

I second that.

snakemarks wrote:Jim_H wrote:
NOooooooooI demand strict prohibition and social stigmatization of all things I deem morally questionable.

And I second that also!

CannondaleKid wrote:

paulhubbard wrote:...Bud Light. I've come across so many lately...

Bud Light cans make up about 95% of the beer can litter I see.

I think we should start a HAZ hiking club for the smoking pariah. We can have our own patch with a cig and a taco on it.

Alston Neal wrote:We can have our own patch with a cig and a taco on it.

maybe once we're ready to quit, it turns into a nicotine patch. Just peel on the back!

Alston Neal wrote:I think we should start a HAZ hiking club for the smoking pariah. We can have our own patch with a cig and a taco on it.

:PMIC:

Cigarettes don't bother me. Even being in a car when someone is smoking does not bother me.

Just for the record.

azbackpackr wrote:Cigarettes don't bother me. Even being in a car when someone is smoking does not bother me.

Just for the record.

Ok you can join our club.

Gee, thanks!

Alston Neal wrote:I think we should start a HAZ hiking club for the smoking pariah. We can have our own patch with a cig and a taco on it.

I'm in!

Hey, maybe you can get a nice celebrity club sponsor... like Yul Brenner... oh, no... wait... he probably can't make it.