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Guy just couldn't stop! 68 hours of sight seeing?

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Wow!

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@johnlp

"Allyn Cureton" Pal of HarveyB I believe :worthy:

azbackpackr wrote:people I meet seem to believe that the Bright Angel and and N. and S. Kaibab are the be-all and end-all of Canyon hiking...

Shhhhh, don't tell them about the other gazillion trails! Don't tell those silly corridor stompers that if they got off their lazy bums and planned ahead of time and trained up their fat mcdonald's ridden bodies that they, like us, might be able to explore more, and more amazing places might await them...shhh don't tell them that there IS more...although, most tourists that visit really are convinced that there are only 4 trails in the ENTIRE canyon SK, NK, BA & H. I'm more than happy to let them believe this silly idea.

As for R2R2R2R2R2R2R2R2R2R guy...he should meet my ex, they might get along nicely, all about ego there. We are not amused nor impressed...it's like the guy who revs up his motorcycle engine then squeals off into the sunset as the cute girl passes by...she is not impressed, and she certainly does not care too much when said guy squeals into the telephone pole across the street.

people whining about slow people, people whining about fast people
uggg!

I respectfully disagree that we are talking about fast or slow hiking. At least for me, what I'm talking about is about wilderness, solitude, a high level of outdoor skills, spiritual experiences in truly wild places, plus healthy doses of awe and wonder. It's about knowledge which allows one to travel in relative safety alone in the wilderness as opposed to going to the gym and working out on a treadmill or pumping iron with hundreds of other people around. It's about careful preparation for a wilderness journey based on knowledge, as opposed to running with a water bottle in your hand.

To me, hiking is a craft, a skill-set honed over years of hands-on practice. Hiking is about having a few friends I look up to for their level of skill, not necessarily their level of athleticism--people I will trust to go on a long foot-journey with. Included in this skill-set is knowledge about route-finding, weather forecasting, map and compass reading, correct usage of GPS (I'm not there yet), wilderness medicine and first aid, how to choose a camp, how to not get sick, how to take care of ongoing issues with your feet, how to select gear that will do what you need it to do, how to deal with rain, snow, wind and wild animals. I can go on: being able to judge your own level of fitness for a particular venture, being able to judge when your companion is not ready for such a venture and it's time to turn back, being able to look at a map spread out on a kitchen table and see immediatly which routes might work, and being able to see the terrain in your mind's eye just by looking at the contours.

This is why I'm not too worried, Hippy, because those folks WILL stay on the corridor trails because their goals and our goals (yours an mine) are different. My goal is to explore very wild places where few have ever been. Their goal is to be athletically challenged. For me, athleticism is necessary to get me to the wild places. For them, athleticism seems to be a be-all and end-all, and perhaps, as you said, an ego-booster. I doubt if very many of these folks are going to develop a passion for developing skills for wilderness travel.

I day hike to stay in shape for backpacking. I backpack so that I can stay in the wild places longer, since I have no real desire to go home, ever.

azbackpackr wrote:I respectfully disagree that we are talking about fast or slow hiking.

Nothing said about the "whining" part...

Well, since I wasn't whining, I supposed it didn't apply to me!

The Hippy wrote:he should meet my ex, they might get along nicely, all about ego there. We are not amused nor impressed...

I dunno, Hippy! He's pretty impressive... seriously. I wish I was in half as good of shape

joe bartels wrote:people whining about slow people, people whining about fast people
uggg!

Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac? -George Carlin

This bears a striking resemblance to SAMBA's peak-bagging thread...

chumley wrote:anyone going faster than you is a maniac? -George Carlin

Don't think I ever noticed that while driving with you