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For any of you gym peeps out there, do you find it difficult to balance your hiking along with your strength training workouts? My background is as a gym rat and I primarily got into hiking for the cardiovascular benefits. I have found that pushing hard on high grade trails has done more for my cardio than anything I ever attempted in the gym. I say attempted because I was never able to continue my cardio day in the gym for more than a few weeks at a time.

Anyways, since I started hiking in 2010, it has been a continual challenge to balance gym workouts with hiking and vice a versa. I would like to be well rounded and find it hard to improve in all the various facets of hiking... fast on short Squaw Peak type hikes, maintain a fast pace on moderate type hikes and have endurance to complete long, death marches... while still maintaining/gaining strength, particularly in the upper body (since hiking does little, if anything, for those muscle groups). I find it difficult to train for all the above, and long hikes have assumed the lowest priority. But, I would like to have the ability to knock out a rim to rim or any other 20 miler and not extremely slow like I typically do on longer hikes. However, in order to train for such length hikes, I find it impossible to not neglect shorter, push 100% ones, along with a much decreased volume in strength building exercises. How do you guys and girls reconcile the varied goals?

Thanks for your comments FOTG Lee. If anyone on this site is built for strength as well as hiking, it is probably you. But, aha, even you are unable to completely balance everything and only work legs every other week. I have too much write in response, but for now i will say that i might try prioritizing instead of trying to improve everything all at once.

If anyone is really trying hard to lose those last 10 pounds read "Racing Weight" by Matt Fitzgerald. Book is aimed at runners and cyclists trying to finesse their power to weight ratio. I also agree with FOTG that weight loss begins in the kitchen, you can't out-hike a donut or 6 pack of beer.

Most of the good stuff is behind a paywall, but Gym Jones up in SLC does some solid programming for outdoor athletes as well. Gym is run by a mountain climber/cyclist and they trained all the actors for the movie "300" a few years back. You can glean some good workout tips from the free stuff though.

Just to add from personal experience, once I started lifting seriously 8 years ago, my injury rate from running and hiking fell dramatically. I'm pushing 50 and I'm not as resilient as I used to be, lifting has helped me a lot.

big_load wrote:

Jim_H wrote:God, and to think that I went hiking for the enjoyment.

I'm assuming you're laughing because of my AEG obsession.

I am going to timidly jump in here. I know I'm not a good as hiker as any of you but for even a mediocre hiker like myself, I have to work out. I mostly work out to hike. I try to do two strength (full body) classes at the club per week and at least one hike per weekend during the summer. I am not one to go to the club every day; sad to say I just won't do that.

Now that the nice temps are here, I will workout twice at the club and try to get in a hike during the week as well. I also have a strength (full body) trainer every other week for 75 minutes. And every once in awhile I'll throw in a Barbell Strength class. And that's just so I can hike mediocre ;) .

This summer I didn't hike anything substantial for a month and so it's taking a lot of extra effort to hike even mediocre but I'm slowly getting my mojo back such as it is. However, that does require HIKING!

@tibber Don't feel bad that you don't hit the gym everyday. From everything that I've read and experienced, once you hit your 40's recovery is more important than working out. If I do a hard workout in the gym it now takes me two days to recover instead of one day. Plus once you hit a certain age diet and sleep are just as important as working out. It's all a matter of balance.

SpiderLegs wrote:It's all a matter of balance.

I find holding one beer in each hand to be a good solution for this.

@chumley
Wow a Chumley sighting on

the Hiking with Strength Training

thread, that is about as unlikely as an appearance by 9L on the weather thread

chumley wrote: I find holding one beer in each hand to be a good solution for this.

Do you alternate the gulps?

friendofThundergod wrote:@chumley
Wow a Chumley sighting on

the Hiking with Strength Training

thread, that is about as unlikely as an appearance by 9L on the weather thread

My thread has been officially hijacked.

Well, you got about 25 quality comments before it went south...

Jim_H wrote:

big_load wrote:

Jim_H wrote:God, and to think that I went hiking for the enjoyment.

I'm assuming you're laughing because of my AEG obsession.

Yes, you are the hill monster. There's nothing wrong with that. Mrs. big_load constantly accuses me of requiring misery to have fun.

I am a dad with two young kids, a full time job, and a house to take care of. I am glad to get one good hike in every week (6-8 miles and 2000-2500' AEG), and then mixing in one backpack or bigger hike on the weekend just about every month. I have not been inside a gym in many years, but I find lots of good strength training in landscaping, yard work, and DIY projects around the house. Regular hiking has kicked my metabolism in the butt like running/ biking never could. I would like to do more strength training, but alas available time is a fickle thing. Maybe when the girls are in high school...despite my penchant for beer and cookies (not generally at the same time, but sometimes) I manage to keep myself at a reasonable 170 lbs.

lindaagm wrote:Well, you got about 25 quality comments before it went south...

I think half of those were mine.

big_load wrote:

Jim_H wrote:

big_load wrote:

Jim_H wrote:God, and to think that I went hiking for the enjoyment.

I'm assuming you're laughing because of my AEG obsession.

Yes, you are the hill monster. There's nothing wrong with that. Mrs. big_load constantly accuses me of requiring misery to have fun.

Hrmm, I thought Jim hiked to observe weather phenomenon.

The Dude wrote: in landscaping, yard work, and DIY projects

That is the kind of strength training that I despise... you know, actual work.

I found I had lots of injuries when I lifted weights regularly. I also carried around a lot more muscle than I needed.
Now, I spend a lot of time walking laps on the helideck, watching movies on treadmill on 15 % incline, and Pilates when I'm at work. I've been getting back into the Rock gym now that the threenager has taken an interest which I think a couple days a week does far more than any "strength training". My strength to weight ratio was never higher than the 5 years I climbed 3 days/ week at the gym and it was functional strength not worthless bulk. Having said that I didn't do a whole lot of anything at work before my pumpkin loop or my PP via Heizer, but I did prehydrate and fuel and paid a lot of attention to hydrating, eating, and breathing along the way. Those were my longest hikes and they felt pretty good. I think concentrating on AEG has certainly helped this year.
Or maybe because most of my hikes are at altitude and the air is thinner I'm just more aerodynamic and that has led to my increase in average speed on hikes with reasonable AEG.
Besides hiking is just off season training for the ski season.

chumley wrote:I find holding one beer in each hand to be a good solution for this.

You will find that as you get Older, the Recovery Time for that gets longer too....

Sorry Nick, I couldn't resist...lol

I'd just like something I could do to improve flexibility and core strength. I found when I went to a river guide school I can't get back into a raft that is sitting in the deep end of the swimming pool. If I wanted to be a paddle raft guide one summer I'd have to be able to get back into the raft. All the guys could, a few of the gals could not. I think that is a core strength ability, plus arms.

I paddle a kayak fairly frequently which helps my arms. I used to enjoy swimming laps regularly, but nowadays most small towns keep their pools open for only a few months of the year. I'd have to go to a bigger town to find a pool open all year.

I have gone to gyms before, and I may go again, but I find the experience to be very tedious. I tend to want to leave very soon after I get there. I think I would have to hire a personal trainer, because the people who work in those places are never very interested in showing me how to do much of anything. I would also like to find a very beginner-beginner senior yoga class, for the flexibility. I have found I can't just walk into an existing class. Every single posture is very painful to various joints.

MtnBart01 wrote:I found I had lots of injuries when I lifted weights regularly.

I wonder if that has anything to do with your tendency to go all-out. :whistle:

For years I did not do 'legs' with my gym workout as why should I.... I hike a lot. Then during knee replacement rehab I learned many leg exercises and started doing them on a routine bases. I found that my hiking strength greatly improved as I continued to do a 'legs' once or twice a week. I hike just enough to keep a base, then ramp it up as I near a planned longer/harder hike.