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I got a ticket in the mail yesterday. Here is the "evidence" against me. If I were doing 79 in the 65 as claimed, I would have been in the trunk of the car in front of me. I am car #2 behind the truck. A car from Colorado is passing me, and he may have been going 79, but I don't know. If he was, it looks like I got his ticket.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH3NTQrE12k

AZDPS and Redflex are clearly lying about the quality control they claim to do, and they have no problems sending a ticket to an innocent victim to help tighten the budget problem and fatten the corporate profits. If they looked at the videos as they claim to do, I never would have gotten this.

Something tells me I am not the first person to whom this has happened. Is anyone interested in starting a class action lawsuit against a company which gathers evidence for the state without a private investigators license, and has profit as its motive behind "law enforcement"?

sounds like a state law, not a federal law. Guess I won't give $6 to my state congressmen and women to request they allocate money for trail maintenance.

@nonot
Even federally, Corporations are prohibited from contributing at all. (That's why PAC's were devised). Corporation principals may not use Corp. funds for contributions.

NJ Update: NJ's 5-year trial program involving Redflex and ATS will expire if not renewed by 12/16/14. Many local politicians want to renew the program and expand it to more municipalities. A likely gubernatorial candidate supports that, and also wants to commence installation of speed cameras. However, the governor said last week that he's unlikely to sign a renewal, and no bill has yet been introduced to the state assembly. Political mavens put the odds against renewal, due to the indictment of the former Redflex CEO. That indictment alleges bribery in NJ, and some fear growth of this program will draw increased scrutiny to those who accepted bribes. Even those who didn't accept bribes may fear the taint of suspicion if they had much interaction with the Redflex, especially if they weren't part of the program.

A bribery scandal is the best thing that could happen for those opposed to these things. I don't like having them in Tucson, but we don't seem to have them the way The Valley did, or does. Ours appear to either be mobile, or confined to traffic lights and intersections. I would rather there just be more high visibility enforcement of speed limits the way Oro Valley does it on Oracle north of Magee, and on River west of Craycroft the way Pima County sometimes enforces the limits.

I sure miss being able to drive 110 MPH the way I could on the Reservation, and 90 to 100 the way one could easily do if they wanted to on US 70 west of White Sands NM, and the grade up to San Augustin Pass in the Organ Mountains (when in my old Honda Civic as the Outback just doesn't do well over 75 to 80 MPH and the MPG drops like a brick over 70 MPH), but I don't really see how most people can speed here. Traffic on 10 is a horrible, horrible nightmare! Even at 630 in the morning, and at 745 at night! and the surface streets seem clogged all the time. during commute times. I know I said people seemed missing a few weeks ago, but I think that was due to me being out in the evening on a Sunday, or something. I don't know.

I've always said that if I win the PowerBall, I am spending half on a car -- a car -- and the other half on a lawyer ...

big_load wrote:NJ Update: NJ's 5-year trial program involving Redflex and ATS will expire if not renewed by 12/16/14. Many local politicians want to renew the program and expand it to more municipalities. A likely gubernatorial candidate supports that, and also wants to commence installation of speed cameras. However, the governor said last week that he's unlikely to sign a renewal, and no bill has yet been introduced to the state assembly. Political mavens put the odds against renewal, due to the indictment of the former Redflex CEO. That indictment alleges bribery in NJ, and some fear growth of this program will draw increased scrutiny to those who accepted bribes. Even those who didn't accept bribes may fear the taint of suspicion if they had much interaction with the Redflex, especially if they weren't part of the program.

Bribes and corruption in New Jersey? Who'd a thunk it?

SpiderLegs wrote:Bribes and corruption in New Jersey? Who'd a thunk it?

The funniest thing about NJ corruption is that they sell out so cheap. They have to be really, really crooked to make a living.

big_load wrote:

SpiderLegs wrote:Bribes and corruption in New Jersey? Who'd a thunk it?

The funniest thing about NJ corruption is that they sell out so cheap. They have to be really, really crooked to make a living.

Lived in central PA for a few long agonizing years. Seem to remember it as the hub of political corruption, always someone getting busted for kickbacks and bribes. Makes what goes on in Arizona look like amateur hour.

kingsnake wrote:I've always said that if I win the PowerBall, I am spending half on a car -- a car -- and the other half on a lawyer ...

Not to change the subject, (but I am) but my first objective after buying a place to live and a car would be to hire some servants to take care of it for me. Everyone always forgets that important part when coming up with their lottery win fantasies. You may want a nicer home, but do you really want to clean it, do the yard work and maintenance yourself? And cooking? I hate to cook.

Okay, 1/3 car, 1/3 lawyer and 1/3 mechanics (they don't come cheap on 2 million dollar cars ... )

Paradise Valley is watching you with some creepy Cact-eye.
http://www.fox10phoenix.com/story/28999 ... -in-cactus

I feel safer already.

I wonder how many photos they will have of a Gila woodpecker staring into the camera?

Alston Neal wrote:I wonder how many photos they will have of a Gila woodpecker staring into the camera?

Most likely only one. The last one....

Useless trivia for you: the reason we even have a rule that photo radar tickets (like all tickets) must be personally served on you to be effective (which is unlike many states, like California) is a Paradise Valley PD fail. The city photo-zapped someone in the late 1980s, who got ticked off enough to hire a lawyer and fight an appeal. The Court of Appeals ruled that he was right, and that personal service was a requirement without any exceptions. That ruling constitutes Arizona law, which has never been overruled or legislatively changed (knock on wood).

How many of those automatic speed and red light cameras are there in the valley? Are there still a lot?

Tucson has a handful I know of for Red lights, mostly at bad intersections like Oracle (SR 77) and River Rd, and there are a few photo radar speed enforcement vans that rove but are announced on the radio. No I-10 DPS photo speed vans, or photo speed cameras on poles like I remember on the loops around the valley.

A small handful of legislators are still trying to get them (and speed cameras) reinstated in NJ. They're not getting much traction yet, and hopefully they never will.

Jim_H wrote:How many of those automatic speed and red light cameras are there in the valley? Are there still a lot?

Tempe, Glendale, and Peoria have deactivated or removed all their cameras. Phoenix has numerous red light cameras, but I don't believe any speed cameras. PV, Scottsdale, Mesa, and Chandler all have red light and speed cameras. Chandler's red light cameras also double as speed cameras, so even if the light is green, you can get a ticket for speeding through the intersection.

All the state-operated cameras (interstates and state routes) have been removed and the state no longer operates mobile vans. There are some fixed cameras on state highways operated by the local communities, such as 260 in Star Valley. I think there are some in Prescott Valley too. I believe the ones in Superior have been removed.

chumley wrote:... the state no longer operates mobile vans

I wondered about that. I haven't seen one in quite a while.

I've been waiting to be served from the fine folks in El Mirage for three years now.