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What are your views on naturists/nudists? Has anyone come upon a naked hiker/camper and what was the outcome ?

...It makes my day when I see new posts to this thread.

I think this link is to the same article. WARNING: SCARY VISUAL

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LOL. Actually this whole nekkid hiking thing might be a good thing.

After all, by general rule (eh, stereotype), nudists are exactly the type of people who should probably be out getting a little bit of exercise.

Scary visual seems to confirm...

The Stillernator wrote:WARNING: SCARY VISUAL

I need to learn how to heed warnings... It's gonna take me a week to "unsee" that.

paulhubbard wrote:

The Stillernator wrote:WARNING: SCARY VISUAL

I need to learn how to heed warnings... It's gonna take me a week to "unsee" that.

Good thing we aren't in Tennessee.

Tennessee Makes Posting ‘Emotionally Distressing’ Images a Crime

http://www.petapixel.com/2011/06/10/ten ... taPixel%29

Tennessee Governor Bill Haslam signed a new law last week that makes it a crime to post images to the Internet that “frighten, intimidate, or cause emotional distress.” Violators found guilty of doing so now face up to one year in jail and $2,500 in fines.

[...] for image postings, the “emotionally distressed” individual need not be the intended recipient. Anyone who sees the image is a potential victim. If a court decides you “should have known” that an image you posted would be upsetting to someone who sees it, you could face months in prison and thousands of dollars in fines. [#]

Needless to say, the Internet is in an uproar over this, and it seems pretty likely that the law will be struck down for being unconstitutional very soon.

(via The Volokh Conspiracy via Engadget)

@Al_HikesAZ
So if someone from Tenn. logs onto HAZ and sees that link thru this forum, who's legally liable, me or Joe?

The Stillernator wrote:@Al_HikesAZ
So if someone from Tenn. logs onto HAZ and sees that link thru this forum, who's legally liable, me or Joe?

Time Magazine. I thought they had better editorial judgement than that. You two are just innocent bystanders. Bet you've never been called that before

Well, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. When I looked at that photo, I saw some middle aged folks out having a good time, getting some exercise (badly needed, apparently) and feeling a nice kind of freedom. And, all legal and without bothering any prudes or uptight younger people. It seems to me that the younger generation needs to collectively smoke a very large bhong and just flippin' GET OVER IT and STOP BEING SO UPTIGHT ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE'S APPEARANCES.

Madison Avenue has done its job too well, because so many people buy into what they sell as "beauty."

My son, who's somewhat of a hippie at 27, spent a couple of weeks this spring at Verde Hot Springs. He said he waited until ASU's spring break started, hoping for naked female students to be amongst the group hanging out there. He said when ASU showed up in a large group, they all wore swimsuits! He said the only people who got naked were people MY age, so he hung out with all the older folks, since they were far less inhibited, more laid-back and fun-loving, etc. (He himself used to be extremely inhibited about these things, so I was glad to hear he got over some of that. And where did he learn that? He wasn't like that until he started kindergarten in Tucson, and learned it from the other kids. I sure didn't teach him that.)

Priceless!!

Well, Liz, we all can't take hits from the tobacco water pipe and just wish our inhibitions away! I think the big problem with nude hikers is on trails that are likely to be frequented by families. That being written, however, it seems as if most nude hikers do their thing on trails that aren't likely to be frequented by families. I'm on a few e-mail lists here in the Bay Area, and there are regular requests for nude hiking partners. Suffice to say the Bay Area as a whole is a lot less uptight about nudism than Arizona. See the Bay to Breakers "race." Actually, don't. Don't do an image search for "bay to breakers" with your search filter turned off unless you really want to see pictures of naked dudes. The vast majority of the requests for nude hiking partners are for hikes on weekdays on out-of-the-way trails. I don't know if it's a personal defect or simple biology, but people don't want to see naked old dudes!
If I were your son, Liz, I still would've hung out with the co-eds in bikinis rather than the old people no matter how uninhibited they are. Or at least ogled the co-eds. Surreptitiously and with class, of course.

Oh, well, I'm sure he did. He's a healthy young guy, after all. I didn't ask for all the particulars. Just that he thought the old hippies were way more cool than the students.

Incidentally, the term "co-ed" is exceedingly sexist, since it refers back to the time when "co-educational institutions" were created, and women were "allowed" to attend school with men (oh, horrors.) So, even though co-educational refers to a school that educates both sexes, a "co-ed" is still a term for a female student, not just for any student. By rights, it should mean any student, but of course, it doesn't. So, it is a term that needs to go the way of the dodo bird, thank you very much.

azbackpackr wrote: By rights, it should mean any student, but of course, it doesn't.

I've noticed you're right about the definition; there's historical reference but (generally) no mention or acknowledgement of our currently-accepted definition...

What does it take to get an update/entry into Websters (or other credible sources)

jeffmacewen wrote:

I am sure Jeff finds my analysis so funny because he himself, in fact, is a co-ed, since he attends U of A, a co-educational institution.

He probably has cute legs, too! ;)

azbackpackr wrote:

jeffmacewen wrote:

I am sure Jeff finds my analysis so funny because he himself, in fact, is a co-ed, since he attends U of A, a co-educational institution.

He probably has cute legs, too! ;)

I try. It's hard, nowadays. Every clothing manufacturer seems to be moving in the direction of longer shorts rather than shorter...not very practical!!

You people crazy. I'm all for women in college no matter what moniker. One could even argue that using the term "co-ed" is an homage to the thoughtful decisions to allow women to benefit from higher education. My tongue's sticking out because I'm pretty damned liberal!

Jim Lyding wrote:You people crazy. I'm all for women in college no matter what moniker. One could even argue that using the term "co-ed" is an homage to the thoughtful decisions to allow women to benefit from higher education. My tongue's sticking out because I'm pretty pumpkin liberal!

There are just these little semantic issues here. One is the word "allow" which intrinsically implies that "disallow" could occur. See what I am getting at? There is still this thing where women are somehow separate. We are allowed, permitted, by the grace of the government, to go to college, vote, etc.

Of course this is far less a problem in the U.S. today than it used to be. However, throughout many, many places in the world, women are the "other." It is worth remembering how women are routinely treated in Africa, Asia, and the Middle East, particularly amongst certain factions of Muslims and in various tribal situations. Places where they are still stoned to death, receive punishment by rape, and routinely are circumcised.

This may not be closely related to the thread topic here, but I sure am glad I am an American.

azbackpackr wrote:We are allowed, permitted, by the grace of the government, to go to college, vote, etc.

Or just stay home (in the kitchen) and go barefoot!? :STP:

azbackpackr wrote: However, throughout many, many places in the world, women are the "other." It is worth remembering how women are routinely treated in Africa, Asia, and the Middle East, particularly amongst certain factions of Muslims and in various tribal situations. Places where they are still stoned to death, receive punishment by rape, and routinely are circumcised.

Some of us need no reminder since we served in those places and saw the aftermath of this kind of barbarism first-hand. I only wish our presence is\was likely to change anything.

Glad I live in AZ!

Thousands in Portland take to bikes for naked ride
By Dan Cook – Sun Jun 19, 1:57 am ET
PORTLAND, Ore (Reuters) – It was a typical early summer evening in Portland: cloudy skies threatening rain, temperatures in the mid-60s, and thousands of naked bicyclists gathered near the city's waterfront for a clothing-free night ride.
The Portland version of the World Naked Bike Ride was about to begin.
"It is the most liberating, natural feeling possible," said Brooklyn Jay, who came all the way from Phoenix for the ride.
World Naked Bike Ride is a globally observed event among hard-core bikers designed, at least ostensibly, to promote the use of the bicycle for transportation. But Portland cyclists have been especially adamant about making it another of the Pacific Northwest city's quirky traditions.
"This is just a way of drawing attention to the need to be more green and replace fossil fuels with natural power," said Ken Johnson, who was completely nude and body-painted grey.
"I am going all the way" nude, said Xandi Silvaggi, adding, "it is all about saving the environment."
Since the World Naked Bike Ride started in 2004, only four other cities -- San Francisco, Seattle, and Boulder and Black Rock City in Colorado -- have celebrated it every year.
The Portland nudist/cyclists have turned the event into a festival, with a pre-ride event and post-ride parties featuring both clothed and naked partying which lasts well into the night.
They even have an official and rather corporate sponsor: Bridgeport Brewing, maker of Portland's first craft beer.
The local group that sponsors the event, SHIFT, describes itself as "a loose-knit and informal bunch of bike-loving folks."
The purpose of the naked rides, SHIFT says, is "a light-hearted protest against fossil fuel. ... A comment on the vulnerability of cyclists. Choose your message, ride with us! As bare as you dare."
Portland Police don't arrest the naked riders. They cite the city's extremely tolerant public indecency code as permitting such activities as mass nude cycling.