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Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: May 15 2009 8:25 pm
by Jim
The endless chatter of weather.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 12 2020 9:31 am
by RedRoxx44
Had a squall come thru last evening, mighta sparked a fire in the SIerrita's . I drove out a ranch road this morning behind 3 wildland firefighting trucks, probably first responders. It's in desert scrub with wide spread ranches in the area. Pretty good smoke producer earlier.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 20 2020 3:49 pm
by chumley
By the old dew point method, I wonder if we'll trigger the start of the monsoon in PHX by the end of this week? Maybe Thur-Fri-Sat?
Tuscon almost got there on July 2, but that's why the old rule required 3 days in a row. They, too, should meet their threshold this week I think.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 20 2020 4:20 pm
by trekkin_gecko
I like the old method
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 20 2020 4:46 pm
by Jim
The old ways are the best ways.

Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 20 2020 5:19 pm
by CannondaleKid
Being absolutely nothing like the monsoons of South and Southeast Asia, I like NO method... or call them something else, not just something to provide weather forecasters a bit of excitement, yup, even the NONsoon so far this year.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 20 2020 5:58 pm
by chumley
@CannondaleKid
We should also call the Sonoran something besides a "desert" because it's nothing like the Sahara!
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 21 2020 8:13 am
by Alston_Neal
I like Haboobs.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 21 2020 5:22 pm
by azbackpackr
@Alston_Neal
Big ones or little ones?
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 23 2020 10:09 am
by Jim
https://alertmap.rfcd.pima.gov/Gmap/Gmap.html
For those interested in observing up to date storm totals from the
summer thunderstorms which result from the singular
monsoon flow, or seasonal wind shift from westerlies to south-southeast winds rich in tropical moisture, which is different from the typically dry continental westerlies, the above link contains several possibly
new rain gauges over the Bighorn Burn.
For example, Finger Rock Ridge near Mount Kimball has a new gauge that is currently reporting a 1 hour total of 59/100ths, and a 1 day total of 83/100ths.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 23 2020 10:32 am
by chumley
@Jim_H
Language evolves. If you don't let me call them monsoons, I will literally die.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 23 2020 11:15 am
by Jim
@chumley
I think the only thing which could atone for my exercising systemic oppression against your now obviously correct usage of the word, "monsoon", is to admit I am an evil person. I will now submit myself to the mob for my violent act against you, and ask that I be treated accordingly.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 23 2020 11:46 am
by markthurman53
@CannondaleKid
Monsoon means change of direction meaning the weather comes in from the south rather than the north. By the definition this is a monsoon and though not as large ad the ones in Asia still a monsoon. Recognized by the meteorologist.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 23 2020 5:17 pm
by ALMAL
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 26 2020 6:53 pm
by Jim
110 degrees in Phoenix today, and the 7 day forecast appears to be worse each day. What are the odds of two dry summers in a row in the desert?
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 26 2020 7:59 pm
by LosDosSloFolks
We received just under one inch Friday evening here in Cave Creek....FINALLY. A nice cell parked over us and it extended north covering the entire Spur Cross Ranch area. It was much needed.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 26 2020 9:03 pm
by chumley
@Jim_H Probably pretty close to the same as two wet winters in a row!
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 27 2020 5:54 pm
by Alston_Neal
LosDosSloFolks wrote:We received just under one inch Friday evening here in Cave Creek
Male inch or female inch....asking for a friend.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 30 2020 5:45 pm
by Jim
Ooooo...can you feel it? There's a chill in the air. It's only 118 degrees outside, been over 116 since 4 PM. Hottest it's been since 2017!
Yeah, that monsoon, it's a-coming! I can feel it. Any minute now. It's coming, I swear. 2021, thats our year! Yeah. Gonna rain, in the summer, like it should. Yeah.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 30 2020 5:54 pm
by DixieFlyer
Jim_H wrote: ↑Jul 26 2020 6:53 pm
What are the odds of two dry summers in a row in the desert?
about the same as flipping a coin and having it land on heads (or tails for that matter) both times??? That would be 25%
That is not likely the right answer, but without knowing some additional info, that is the best that I could come up with
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Jul 31 2020 12:40 pm
by chumley
From NWS PHX:
Based on preliminary numbers, July 2020 is now the hottest month on record for Phoenix, AZ with an average temperature of 99.0 °F. This breaks the old record of 98.3 °F set in July 2009 and tied in August 2011.