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Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: May 15 2009 8:25 pm
by Jim
The endless chatter of weather.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2021 9:00 am
by DixieFlyer
It has been an impressive monsoon season in northern Arizona:
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2021 9:51 am
by LosDosSloFolks
@DixieFlyer
Don't leave us hangin' with that colon....

Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2021 6:30 pm
by RedRoxx44
Had a tornado warning for my area a couple of hours ago. A first for me in Az. Just had a regular thunderstorm with lightning and rain.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2021 6:34 pm
by big_load
@RedRoxx44 I hope it didn't get any worse. Based on the time, I figure the danger must have passed by now.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 05 2021 6:35 pm
by RedRoxx44
@big_load
Ya, the sky was dark and there was a little tail hanging out of one corner but nothing came of it, got windy then just a regular storm.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 06 2021 7:58 am
by garyc57
RedRoxx44 wrote:A first for me in Az.
As I recall, a "tiny" one touched down out in Apache Junction in... '86? Kinda had me worried as I had just moved to Mesa from the Gila Valley.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 06 2021 3:27 pm
by azbackpackr
@garyc57
These are probably the most notable tornadoes I've heard of in Arizona. Bellemont, Oct. 2010. They are not the only ones that have caused damage. But I don't feel like doing a big old Google search.
https://azdailysun.com/news/local/belle ... a90c4.html
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 06 2021 3:35 pm
by joebartels
Toby Thomas appeared excited his work truck was flipped.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 13 2021 6:26 am
by Jim
Who remembers last Septembers smoke choked skies and 110 degrees( at least in Phoenix)? Well, it's back. At least it isn't as horrible.
Seems this persistent brown haze that has been around the last few days is smoke, confirmed to me in satellite images, the deep red sunset last night, and the brown layer in the sky as it was setting. I think it is from California and the northwest, but I can't tell 100%. It appears to be wrapping around the large high that has set up over us, and circulated well around the western half of the continent, before getting back to Arizona. So it goes with the early death to the Monsoon.
It isn't humidity, though. The dew point outside is only 52, with a temperature of 74 where I am. Not bad.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 30 2021 8:16 am
by chumley
This totally not-monsoon-related weather system that will somehow be credited to monsoon rainfall totals anyway has brought to our state the first touch of winter.
The San Francisco Peaks have just a touch of snow across the highest peaks this morning, and a larger swath of the White Mountains have a fresh coat of frosty goodness.

Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 30 2021 8:23 am
by azbackpackr
@chumley
And I'm making plans to leave Flagstaff and head for the desert and then Florida!

Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Sep 30 2021 8:25 am
by big_load
Autumn finally came to NJ. We've had two consecutive nights with lows in the 40s, a drop of 15-20 degrees, and highs have dropped from the low 80s down to the upper 60s. It's hard to believe now, but we'll start raking leaves in three weeks.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Oct 02 2021 7:16 am
by DixieFlyer
The monsoon rainfall totals this summer in northern Arizona were quite impressive for the most part:
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Oct 12 2021 7:57 am
by Jim
Light snow in Flagstaff. Kinda early. Cold forecast for the nights up there the next few days, too.
I read that this will be a cold, dry winter. Early season snow brings a sense of optimism I don't always trust.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Oct 14 2021 10:21 am
by chumley
Double-dip La Nina emerges
Climate pattern may influence winter ahead
This La Nina is expected to last through the early spring 2022. For the upcoming winter season, which extends from December 2021 through February 2022, there is an 87% chance of La Nina.
https://www.noaa.gov/news/double-dip-la-nina-emerges
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Oct 14 2021 10:53 am
by SuperstitionGuy
So the warming that has been predicted so long is not going to happen.
Oh, that's why it now has been called Climate Change?

Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Oct 14 2021 11:24 am
by hikeaz
@SuperstitionGuy
https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-yea ... edictions/
Gotta like the last one... "500 days to avoid Climate Chaos". ("Scientists" still using the same writers I see...)
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Oct 16 2021 2:26 pm
by JimmyLyding
SuperstitionGuy wrote:So the warming that has been predicted so long is not going to happen.

Oh, that's why it now has been called Climate Change?
2011-2020 was globally the warmest decade on record. A few outliers don't change that fact despite how they seem to superficially confirm a political narrative.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Oct 18 2021 8:42 am
by Jim
So, commence the media fueled freak-out, then? It was alarmism in the 1970s, and now we need more alarmism today!? WAAaaaa!!!!
Frankly, I don't care which side of the "narrative" someone finds themselves, but if you're on the alarmist side, what are you doing? Keeping the house cold in winter, cold showers, no lights after dark, no computer use, absolutely no driving, and not eating anything grown or harvested from more than a few miles from one's house are some of the only ways to avoid fossil fuels. You shouldn't be using water unless it's a completely gravity fed supplies. Only one set of clothes, of course. Basically no electronic devices, at all.
The fantasy that we even have the capability of converting to an all electric economy is just that. We don't have the metals, and China will suck them up faster than we can. How will we even produce the power, since most hate nuclear. The renewable fantasy is more about optics than sustainable energy production. What will we do with the no longer in use wind turbines and solar panels when they wear out? They're building up. Plus, everyone hates mining, but where do you think metals comes from? Magic?
I'm hardly captain Exxon, as the pollution factor is one major way we see fossil fuels. However, fossil fuels have made modern life what it is: tolerable to great. Without it, life will suck. That said, maybe we should stop with the radical garbage being sold, and instead invest in more nuclear sources and attempt to convert to a hydrogen economy. I prefer that to what the alarmists think we should do. Especially since they tend to focus on idiotic things like diet, than the rest of the system. However, if you wanted to focus on consumption, stop consuming your pot, all alcohol, sugar and the highly refined, processed, and industrial produced slop that uses a lot of energy to make.
Re: Atmosphere Comparison
Posted: Oct 18 2021 11:06 am
by chumley
How 'bout that wind up north? Almost springlike!